LOL, okay, I need to read all my e-mail before responding! What's really interesting about this manual is it shows transom eyes on the boat, but they're still using the deck cleats. I seem to recall someone years back saying OMC engineers would use the deck cleats to lift the boat out of the water in a pinch, but I can assure you I've personally seen several c leats ripped from the deck (not OMC boats) simply by being towed in not-so choppy water and I've read dozens of stories in BoatUS's Seaworthy publication about the same -- please treat this as an exception for OMC boats and be very wary with other makes you may encounter.
I'm afraid I'm not a good candidate to comment on the Johnson trailers as I have a TeeNee the dealer advised over the Johnson when my Dad bought the boat . That said, I find if I go in too deep, it can be very difficult to line the boat up on the rollers, especially if there is any current. I "sight gauge" off the trailer fenders to determine when to stop and those last few cranks on the winch can be real doozies if I don't get it right. On the flip side, I practically have to back the car into the water just to get the runners on my SeaDoo trailer to water level!
Towing with the transom,
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Schmelzeis" <northphx@...>
To: omc-boats@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:40:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [OMC-Boats] 67 Surfer rear tie-downs and links to manuals
Hi Justin and Andy,
Yes, the use of the cleats is consistent with the instructions on page 13 of the 1967 Johnson Surfer Owner's manual and page 9 in the Johnson 19 ft. boat trailer 1967 Owner's Manual found at the links below that I am providing on chance you find the overall documentation interesting. That said, I am certainly open to the possibility that improvements in approach have occurred since 67'.
1967 Surfer Owner's manual: http://cid-b35b5e0fd3a90c91.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/1967%20Johnson%20Surfer%20Owner%5E4s%20Manual%20orig.pdf
Johnson 19 ft. boat trailer 1967 Owner's Manual: http://cid-b35b5e0fd3a90c91.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Johnson%201967%2019%20ft%20boat%20trailer%20owners%20manual.pdf
I'd be interested in people's thoughts and guidance re: the Launching and Loading instructions in the trailer manual (pages 6 - 9). It seems like most folks put their trailers in much deeper than suggested in the manual...in lakes around here (AZ) anyway. Maybe the unique on-trailer jack accounts for the discrepancy?
John
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:17:52 -0400 (EDT)
> From: ANDY PERAKES <aperakes@...>
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
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>
> That is different.? Anxious to hear how it works.
>
>
>
> John:? I don't know if that's how you usually do your rear tie-downs, but you should really be attaching to the transom.? The upper deck cleat you're attached to in the photos will allow the boat quite a bit of rearward travel before cinching up and by then it may be too late.
>
>
>
> Andy
>
> '67 Reveler
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Veazie" <scottveazie@...>
> To: omc-boats@...
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:20:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>
> Hey John,
> ?
> I noticed in one of your pics that you had doel-fin type fins on the BACK of your drive?? I've never seen them mounted that way, how well does that work?? Anyone else see what I'm seeing?
> ?
> ~Scott
> ?
>
> From: northphx@...
> To: omc-boats@...
> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:34:57 -0700
> Subject: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>
>
> Lee (and Forum),
>
> A quick thank you for the support and recommendations that you've?made in support of my newbie questions.? My 67/68 Johnson Surfer is now running very very well on area lakes.? I've completed:
>
> Documentation: all rig OMC docs acquired on eBay
>
> ? Owner's manual
> ? Orig OMC Service Manual for boat (one used by authorized dealer repair technicians)
> ? Boat Parts
> ? Sterndrive parts
>
>
> Boat
>
> ? New fuel lines (Used the Stainless steel braided type due to close runs to the engine)
> ? power-washed both gas tanks, added new hose (flexible stuff from Napa) and custom cut new gas tank gaskets from cork/rubber gasket material (autozone)
> ? put in a Pertronix Electic Ignition system...don't want to mess with "Points"...highly recommend this upgrade at ~$85 and 10 mins of work
> ? Rebuilt Carb?with CK812 carburetor kit from www.carburetor.ca ? (Rusty/owner is VERY helpful and knowledgeable...knew which rebuilt kit to recommend immediately upon hearing engine and OMC/Marine use)
> ? General electrical repair and clean-up
>
>
> Trailer
>
> ? Key learning:? the rubber stopper on for the bow was incorrectly placed on top of trailer "stop" and this eliminated critical inches that -once corrected/place below metal holder- pulled the keel off the rollers
> ? New wheels
> ? Repaired Jack that lifts bow on trailer...seems like a unique design?I am guessing to eliminate?requirement for boat ramps (the thing with "teeth" inside...bearing??...anyway...got lucky and found similar online and matched the "look" even though from different manufacturer. It works! )
> ? Added trailer?Jack to improve safety
>
>
> Pictures:? ? I've posted some pics here: http://cid-475cacc7c0e86c18.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Boat ?
>
> btw:? since the manifolds are key to life expectancy of this model boat, there is a cleaning/lining process used by local hot rod and classic car shops that I am considering.? The process involves sand blasting, acid washing, and some type of "hot blue/Jet blue" process by which a synthetic coating?is put onto the parts that eliminates rust and reduces build up.? As I explore further, I'll share my findings with the forum.
>
> Again, thanks for the support!
>
> Best,
> John
> Lee (and Forum),
>
> A quick thank you for the support and recommendations that you've?made in support of my newbie questions.? My 67/68 Johnson Surfer is now running very very well on area lakes.? I've completed:
>
> Documentation: all rig OMC docs acquired on eBay
>
> ? Owner's manual
> ? Orig OMC Service Manual for boat (one used by authorized dealer repair technicians)
> ? Boat Parts
> ? Sterndrive parts
>
>
> Boat
>
> ? New fuel lines (Used the Stainless steel braided type due to close runs to the engine)
> ? power-washed both gas tanks, added new hose (flexible stuff from Napa) and custom cut new gas tank gaskets from cork/rubber gasket material (autozone)
> ? put in a Pertronix Electic Ignition system...don't want to mess with "Points"...highly recommend this upgrade at ~$85 and 10 mins of work
> ? Rebuilt Carb?with CK812 carburetor kit from www.carburetor.ca ? (Rusty/owner is VERY helpful and knowledgeable...knew which rebuilt kit to recommend immediately upon hearing engine and OMC/Marine use)
> ? General electrical repair and clean-up
>
>
> Trailer
>
> ? Key learning:? the rubber stopper on for the bow was incorrectly placed on top of trailer "stop" and this eliminated critical inches that -once corrected/place below metal holder- pulled the keel off the rollers
> ? New wheels
> ? Repaired Jack that lifts bow on trailer...seems like a unique design?I am guessing to eliminate?requirement for boat ramps (the thing with "teeth" inside...bearing??...anyway...got lucky and found similar online and matched the "look" even though from different manufacturer. It works! )
> ? Added trailer?Jack to improve safety
>
>
> Pictures:? ? I've posted some pics here: http://cid-475cacc7c0e86c18.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Boat ?
>
> btw:? since the manifolds are key to life expectancy of this model boat, there is a cleaning/lining process used by local hot rod and classic car shops that I am considering.? The process involves sand blasting, acid washing, and some type of "hot blue/Jet blue" process by which a synthetic coating?is put onto the parts that eliminates rust and reduces build up.? As I explore further, I'll share my findings with the forum.
>
> Again, thanks for the support!
>
> Best,
> John
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> From: Justin DeSantis <duc1098desmo@...>
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
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> If I'm not mistaken, that tie down arrangement in his pictures is the
> factory tie down and how Johnson recommends it's tied down.
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:17 PM, ANDY PERAKES
> <aperakes@...> wrote:
>> That is different. Anxious to hear how it works.
>>
>>
>>
>> John: I don't know if that's how you usually do your rear tie-downs, but
>> you should really be attaching to the transom. The upper deck cleat you're
>> attached to in the photos will allow the boat quite a bit of rearward travel
>> before cinching up and by then it may be too late.
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> '67 Reveler
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Scott Veazie" <scottveazie@...>
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:20:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>>
>> Hey John,
>>
>> I noticed in one of your pics that you had doel-fin type fins on the BACK of
>> your drive? I've never seen them mounted that way, how well does that
>> work? Anyone else see what I'm seeing?
>>
>> ~Scott
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: northphx@...
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:34:57 -0700
>> Subject: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>>
>> Lee (and Forum),
>>
>> A quick thank you for the support and recommendations that you've made in
>> support of my newbie questions. My 67/68 Johnson Surfer is now running very
>> very well on area lakes. I've completed:
>>
>> Documentation: all rig OMC docs acquired on eBay
>>
>> Owner's manual
>> Orig OMC Service Manual for boat (one used by authorized dealer repair
>> technicians)
>> Boat Parts
>> Sterndrive parts
>>
>> Boat
>>
>> New fuel lines (Used the Stainless steel braided type due to close runs to
>> the engine)
>> power-washed both gas tanks, added new hose (flexible stuff from Napa) and
>> custom cut new gas tank gaskets from cork/rubber gasket material (autozone)
>> put in a Pertronix Electic Ignition system...don't want to mess with
>> "Points"...highly recommend this upgrade at ~$85 and 10 mins of work
>> Rebuilt Carb with CK812 carburetor kit from www.carburetor.ca (Rusty/owner
>> is VERY helpful and knowledgeable...knew which rebuilt kit to recommend
>> immediately upon hearing engine and OMC/Marine use)
>> General electrical repair and clean-up
>>
>> Trailer
>>
>> Key learning: the rubber stopper on for the bow was incorrectly placed on
>> top of trailer "stop" and this eliminated critical inches that -once
>> corrected/place below metal holder- pulled the keel off the rollers
>> New wheels
>> Repaired Jack that lifts bow on trailer...seems like a unique design I am
>> guessing to eliminate requirement for boat ramps (the thing with "teeth"
>> inside...bearing??...anyway...got lucky and found similar online and matched
>> the "look" even though from different manufacturer. It works! )
>> Added trailer Jack to improve safety
>>
>> Pictures: I've posted some pics here:
>> http://cid-475cacc7c0e86c18.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Boat
>>
>> btw: since the manifolds are key to life expectancy of this model boat,
>> there is a cleaning/lining process used by local hot rod and classic car
>> shops that I am considering. The process involves sand blasting, acid
>> washing, and some type of "hot blue/Jet blue" process by which a synthetic
>> coating is put onto the parts that eliminates rust and reduces build up. As
>> I explore further, I'll share my findings with the forum.
>>
>> Again, thanks for the support!
>>
>> Best,
>> John
>> ________________________________
>> Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more.
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> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:36:55 -0700
> From: Paul Blancplaines <northphx@...>
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
> To: <omc-boats@...>
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>
>
> Scott, thanks for highlighting the fin location. It came attached as shown and appears to have been mounted that way for quite some time based on it's wear and age. In terms of performance, I am a first time boat owner, so don't have a point of reference. Based on its function the location does seem sub-optimal, so I've added a change to the Stingray XPII with a standard mounting to my to-do list. :)
>
>
>
> Justin,
>
>
>
> It very well could be a 67 and in the body of email I state 67/68 due to the fact that some documentation attributes 5 Bolt upper gearcase to 68+ and 4 Bolt to 67- and my boat has 5 bolts. Also, thanks for the clarification of Jet Blue. btw: It looks like you've done an impressive amount of restoration on your Surfer.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> John
>
>> From: omc-boats-request@...
>> Subject: OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:29:42 -0400
>>
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>> 1. Re: Thank you: 68 Surfer running great! (Justin DeSantis)
>> 2. Re: RV Anti-Freeze for winterizing? (Nexi)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:06:54 -0400
>> From: Justin DeSantis <duc1098desmo@...>
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
>> <omc-boats@...>
>> Message-ID:
>> <5282a5b50910260906i7e79b550qd350267ea5910f8e@...>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Are you sure that's not a 67 Surfer? It looks identical to mine, and
>> mine's a 67. I was under the impression that 67 was the only year for
>> that color. And I think the coating you're talking about it Jet Hot.
>> It's a ceramic coating. Very popular in the motorcycle industry. ever
>> heard of it being used on boats, but I guess it would work.
>>
>> Heres pictures of my Surfer (which will most likely be for sale in the
>> spring): http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/nitsujcbr/good%20ship%20lollypop/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Scott Veazie <scottveazie@...> wrote:
>> > Hey John,
>> >
>> > I noticed in one of your pics that you had doel-fin type fins on the BACK of
>> > your drive? I've never seen them mounted that way, how well does that
>> > work? Anyone else see what I'm seeing?
>> >
>> > ~Scott
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: northphx@...
>> > To: omc-boats@...
>> > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:34:57 -0700
>> > Subject: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>> >
>> > Lee (and Forum),
>> >
>> > A quick thank you for the support and recommendations that you've made in
>> > support of my newbie questions. My 67/68 Johnson Surfer is now running very
>> > very well on area lakes. I've completed:
>> >
>> > Documentation: all rig OMC docs acquired on eBay
>> >
>> > Owner's manual
>> > Orig OMC Service Manual for boat (one used by authorized dealer repair
>> > technicians)
>> > Boat Parts
>> > Sterndrive parts
>> >
>> > Boat
>> >
>> > New fuel lines (Used the Stainless steel braided type due to close runs to
>> > the engine)
>> > power-washed both gas tanks, added new hose (flexible stuff from Napa) and
>> > custom cut new gas tank gaskets from cork/rubber gasket material (autozone)
>> > put in a Pertronix Electic Ignition system...don't want to mess with
>> > "Points"...highly recommend this upgrade at ~$85 and 10 mins of work
>> > Rebuilt Carb with CK812 carburetor kit from www.carburetor.ca (Rusty/owner
>> > is VERY helpful and knowledgeable...knew which rebuilt kit to recommend
>> > immediately upon hearing engine and OMC/Marine use)
>> > General electrical repair and clean-up
>> >
>> > Trailer
>> >
>> > Key learning: the rubber stopper on for the bow was incorrectly placed on
>> > top of trailer "stop" and this eliminated critical inches that -once
>> > corrected/place below metal holder- pulled the keel off the rollers
>> > New wheels
>> > Repaired Jack that lifts bow on trailer...seems like a unique design I am
>> > guessing to eliminate requirement for boat ramps (the thing with "teeth"
>> > inside...bearing??...anyway...got lucky and found similar online and matched
>> > the "look" even though from different manufacturer. It works! )
>> > Added trailer Jack to improve safety
>> >
>> > Pictures: I've posted some pics here:
>> > http://cid-475cacc7c0e86c18.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Boat
>> >
>> > btw: since the manifolds are key to life expectancy of this model boat,
>> > there is a cleaning/lining process used by local hot rod and classic car
>> > shops that I am considering. The process involves sand blasting, acid
>> > washing, and some type of "hot blue/Jet blue" process by which a synthetic
>> > coating is put onto the parts that eliminates rust and reduces build up. As
>> > I explore further, I'll share my findings with the forum.
>> >
>> > Again, thanks for the support!
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > John
>> > ________________________________
>> > Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OMC-Boats mailing list
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>> >
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:02:49 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...>
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] RV Anti-Freeze for winterizing?
>> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
>> <omc-boats@...>
>> Message-ID: <356711.232.qm@...>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Here's a few pics of the connection I use for the hose. I did dump some
>> antifreeze in but it started coming out the exhaust ports pretty
>> quickly. At least I know there's no water in the stern drive. To fill
>> the engine itself I pulled a couple of the hoses and started pouring it
>> in, I still have a bit left to pour in but I got the process started. I'm going to keep pouring it into the engine until it starts coming out the petcock. That should keep the part of the engine below the petcock level from freezing up. I figure the antifreeze can't hurt.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: BC Howk <bchowk@...>
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 2:10:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] RV Anti-Freeze for winterizing?
>>
>> Where would you put the antifreeze in? I usually just open the petcock valves and drain the block, no water to freeze...
>>
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2009, Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...> wrote:
>> A neighbor suggested using RV Antifreeze for winterizing the block because it's the least expensive. Any thoughts?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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> From: "Lee K. Shuster \(lib1\)" <lib1@...>
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
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> 5-bolt sterndrives were a mid-1967 improvement by OMC.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Blancplaines
> To: omc-boats@...
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
>
>
> Scott, thanks for highlighting the fin location. It came attached as shown and appears to have been mounted that way for quite some time based on it's wear and age. In terms of performance, I am a first time boat owner, so don't have a point of reference. Based on its function the location does seem sub-optimal, so I've added a change to the Stingray XPII with a standard mounting to my to-do list. :)
>
> Justin,
>
> It very well could be a 67 and in the body of email I state 67/68 due to the fact that some documentation attributes 5 Bolt upper gearcase to 68+ and 4 Bolt to 67- and my boat has 5 bolts. Also, thanks for the clarification of Jet Blue. btw: It looks like you've done an impressive amount of restoration on your Surfer.
>
> Best,
> John
>
> > From: omc-boats-request@...
> > Subject: OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
> > To: omc-boats@...
> > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:29:42 -0400
> >
> > Send OMC-Boats mailing list submissions to
> > omc-boats@...
> >
> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > http://lists.ultimate.com/mailman/listinfo/omc-boats
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > omc-boats-request@...
> >
> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > omc-boats-owner@...
> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of OMC-Boats digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: Thank you: 68 Surfer running great! (Justin DeSantis)
> > 2. Re: RV Anti-Freeze for winterizing? (Nexi)
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:06:54 -0400
> > From: Justin DeSantis <duc1098desmo@...>
> > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
> > To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
> > <omc-boats@...>
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> > Are you sure that's not a 67 Surfer? It looks identical to mine, and
> > mine's a 67. I was under the impression that 67 was the only year for
> > that color. And I think the coating you're talking about it Jet Hot.
> > It's a ceramic coating. Very popular in the motorcycle industry. ever
> > heard of it being used on boats, but I guess it would work.
> >
> > Heres pictures of my Surfer (which will most likely be for sale in the
> > spring): http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/nitsujcbr/good%20ship%20lollypop/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Scott Veazie <scottveazie@...il.com> wrote:
> > > Hey John,
> > >
> > > I noticed in one of your pics that you had doel-fin type fins on the BACK of
> > > your drive? I've never seen them mounted that way, how well does that
> > > work? Anyone else see what I'm seeing?
> > >
> > > ~Scott
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: northphx@...
> > > To: omc-boats@...
> > > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:34:57 -0700
> > > Subject: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
> > >
> > > Lee (and Forum),
> > >
> > > A quick thank you for the support and recommendations that you've made in
> > > support of my newbie questions. My 67/68 Johnson Surfer is now running very
> > > very well on area lakes. I've completed:
> > >
> > > Documentation: all rig OMC docs acquired on eBay
> > >
> > > Owner's manual
> > > Orig OMC Service Manual for boat (one used by authorized dealer repair
> > > technicians)
> > > Boat Parts
> > > Sterndrive parts
> > >
> > > Boat
> > >
> > > New fuel lines (Used the Stainless steel braided type due to close runs to
> > > the engine)
> > > power-washed both gas tanks, added new hose (flexible stuff from Napa) and
> > > custom cut new gas tank gaskets from cork/rubber gasket material (autozone)
> > > put in a Pertronix Electic Ignition system...don't want to mess with
> > > "Points"...highly recommend this upgrade at ~$85 and 10 mins of work
> > > Rebuilt Carb with CK812 carburetor kit from www.carburetor.ca (Rusty/owner
> > > is VERY helpful and knowledgeable...knew which rebuilt kit to recommend
> > > immediately upon hearing engine and OMC/Marine use)
> > > General electrical repair and clean-up
> > >
> > > Trailer
> > >
> > > Key learning: the rubber stopper on for the bow was incorrectly placed on
> > > top of trailer "stop" and this eliminated critical inches that -once
> > > corrected/place below metal holder- pulled the keel off the rollers
> > > New wheels
> > > Repaired Jack that lifts bow on trailer...seems like a unique design I am
> > > guessing to eliminate requirement for boat ramps (the thing with "teeth"
> > > inside...bearing??...anyway...got lucky and found similar online and matched
> > > the "look" even though from different manufacturer. It works! )
> > > Added trailer Jack to improve safety
> > >
> > > Pictures: I've posted some pics here:
> > > http://cid-475cacc7c0e86c18.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Boat
> > >
> > > btw: since the manifolds are key to life expectancy of this model boat,
> > > there is a cleaning/lining process used by local hot rod and classic car
> > > shops that I am considering. The process involves sand blasting, acid
> > > washing, and some type of "hot blue/Jet blue" process by which a synthetic
> > > coating is put onto the parts that eliminates rust and reduces build up. As
> > > I explore further, I'll share my findings with the forum.
> > >
> > > Again, thanks for the support!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > John
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:02:49 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...>
> > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] RV Anti-Freeze for winterizing?
> > To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
> > <omc-boats@...>
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> > Here's a few pics of the connection I use for the hose. I did dump some
> > antifreeze in but it started coming out the exhaust ports pretty
> > quickly. At least I know there's no water in the stern drive. To fill
> > the engine itself I pulled a couple of the hoses and started pouring it
> > in, I still have a bit left to pour in but I got the process started. I'm going to keep pouring it into the engine until it starts coming out the petcock. That should keep the part of the engine below the petcock level from freezing up. I figure the antifreeze can't hurt.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: BC Howk <bchowk@...>
> > To: omc-boats@...
> > Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 2:10:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] RV Anti-Freeze for winterizing?
> >
> > Where would you put the antifreeze in? I usually just open the petcock valves and drain the block, no water to freeze...
> >
> >
> > On Oct 13, 2009, Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...> wrote:
> > A neighbor suggested using RV Antifreeze for winterizing the block because it's the least expensive. Any thoughts?
> > >
> > >
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> From: ANDY PERAKES <aperakes@...>
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
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> The purpose of the rear tie down is two-fold,?keep the boat from bouncing off the trailer and keep it from sliding backwards should the bow line break.? Tying to deck cleats has two problems.? First, deck cleats are generally much weaker than transom or bow mounts.? They are unusually strong on these old OMC's, but typically they are designed for the relatively light duty loads of mooring.? Many deck cleats have been ripped out by unwary sailors who tried to use them to anchor?tow lines, occasionally striking a person on the opposite end of the rope with grave results.? The second reason is positioning.? If you look at John's pictures, you can see the line actually runs forward as it rises.? Should the bow line break, the boat will slide back 1 - 2' before the rear lines tighten?to hold the boat.? Once the boat starts moving,?you're dealing with much higher dynamic loads which increase the chances the line will break.? Its better than nothing, but its far from optimal.
>
>
>
> On another note, BoatUS just ran another article on storage with E10.? Nothing?new (use stabilizer, top off tank) , but another interesting read on the topic.? If the link works (may be?members only), here it is:? ? http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/boatus/200911/#/66 .? Lee, related to this topic, I've now talked to two additional triboligists who also agreed that no additive would restore any fuel or lubricant to "factory fresh" condition.? All agreed it does help to refresh the additives so at least we know we're not wasting money.
>
>
>
> Andy
>
> '67 Reveler
>
> ?
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Justin DeSantis" <duc1098desmo@...>
> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's" <omc-boats@...timate.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:50:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>
> If I'm not mistaken, that tie down arrangement in his pictures is the
> factory tie down and how Johnson recommends it's tied down.
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:17 PM, ANDY PERAKES
> <aperakes@...> wrote:
>> That is different. ?Anxious to hear how it works.
>>
>>
>>
>> John: ?I don't know if that's how you usually do your rear tie-downs, but
>> you should really be attaching to the transom. ?The upper deck cleat you're
>> attached to in the photos will allow the boat quite a bit of rearward travel
>> before cinching up and by then it may be too late.
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> '67 Reveler
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Scott Veazie" <scottveazie@...>
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:20:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>>
>> Hey John,
>>
>> I noticed in one of your pics that you had doel-fin type fins on the BACK of
>> your drive? ?I've never seen them mounted that way, how well does that
>> work? ?Anyone else see what I'm seeing?
>>
>> ~Scott
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: northphx@...
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:34:57 -0700
>> Subject: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>>
>> Lee (and Forum),
>>
>> A quick thank you for the support and recommendations that you've made in
>> support of my newbie questions. ?My 67/68 Johnson Surfer is now running very
>> very well on area lakes. ?I've completed:
>>
>> Documentation: all rig OMC docs acquired on eBay
>>
>> Owner's manual
>> Orig OMC Service Manual for boat (one used by authorized dealer repair
>> technicians)
>> Boat Parts
>> Sterndrive parts
>>
>> Boat
>>
>> New fuel lines (Used the Stainless steel braided type due to close runs to
>> the engine)
>> power-washed both gas tanks, added new hose (flexible stuff from Napa) and
>> custom cut new gas tank gaskets from cork/rubber gasket material (autozone)
>> put in a Pertronix Electic Ignition system...don't want to mess with
>> "Points"...highly recommend this upgrade at ~$85 and 10 mins of work
>> Rebuilt Carb with CK812 carburetor kit from www.carburetor.ca ?(Rusty/owner
>> is VERY helpful and knowledgeable...knew which rebuilt kit to recommend
>> immediately upon hearing engine and OMC/Marine use)
>> General electrical repair and clean-up
>>
>> Trailer
>>
>> Key learning: ?the rubber stopper on for the bow was incorrectly placed on
>> top of trailer "stop" and this eliminated critical inches that -once
>> corrected/place below metal holder- pulled the keel off the rollers
>> New wheels
>> Repaired Jack that lifts bow on trailer...seems like a unique design I am
>> guessing to eliminate requirement for boat ramps (the thing with "teeth"
>> inside...bearing??...anyway...got lucky and found similar online and matched
>> the "look" even though from different manufacturer. It works! )
>> Added trailer Jack to improve safety
>>
>> Pictures: ? I've posted some pics here:
>> http://cid-475cacc7c0e86c18.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Boat
>>
>> btw: ?since the manifolds are key to life expectancy of this model boat,
>> there is a cleaning/lining process used by local hot rod and classic car
>> shops that I am considering. ?The process involves sand blasting, acid
>> washing, and some type of "hot blue/Jet blue" process by which a synthetic
>> coating is put onto the parts that eliminates rust and reduces build up. ?As
>> I explore further, I'll share my findings with the forum.
>>
>> Again, thanks for the support!
>>
>> Best,
>> John
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> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:17:52 -0400 (EDT)
> From: ANDY PERAKES <aperakes@...>
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
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> That is different.? Anxious to hear how it works.
>
>
>
> John:? I don't know if that's how you usually do your rear tie-downs, but you should really be attaching to the transom.? The upper deck cleat you're attached to in the photos will allow the boat quite a bit of rearward travel before cinching up and by then it may be too late.
>
>
>
> Andy
>
> '67 Reveler
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Veazie" <scottveazie@...>
> To: omc-boats@...
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:20:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>
> Hey John,
> ?
> I noticed in one of your pics that you had doel-fin type fins on the BACK of your drive?? I've never seen them mounted that way, how well does that work?? Anyone else see what I'm seeing?
> ?
> ~Scott
> ?
>
> From: northphx@...
> To: omc-boats@...
> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:34:57 -0700
> Subject: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>
>
> Lee (and Forum),
>
> A quick thank you for the support and recommendations that you've?made in support of my newbie questions.? My 67/68 Johnson Surfer is now running very very well on area lakes.? I've completed:
>
> Documentation: all rig OMC docs acquired on eBay
>
> ? Owner's manual
> ? Orig OMC Service Manual for boat (one used by authorized dealer repair technicians)
> ? Boat Parts
> ? Sterndrive parts
>
>
> Boat
>
> ? New fuel lines (Used the Stainless steel braided type due to close runs to the engine)
> ? power-washed both gas tanks, added new hose (flexible stuff from Napa) and custom cut new gas tank gaskets from cork/rubber gasket material (autozone)
> ? put in a Pertronix Electic Ignition system...don't want to mess with "Points"...highly recommend this upgrade at ~$85 and 10 mins of work
> ? Rebuilt Carb?with CK812 carburetor kit from www.carburetor.ca ? (Rusty/owner is VERY helpful and knowledgeable...knew which rebuilt kit to recommend immediately upon hearing engine and OMC/Marine use)
> ? General electrical repair and clean-up
>
>
> Trailer
>
> ? Key learning:? the rubber stopper on for the bow was incorrectly placed on top of trailer "stop" and this eliminated critical inches that -once corrected/place below metal holder- pulled the keel off the rollers
> ? New wheels
> ? Repaired Jack that lifts bow on trailer...seems like a unique design?I am guessing to eliminate?requirement for boat ramps (the thing with "teeth" inside...bearing??...anyway...got lucky and found similar online and matched the "look" even though from different manufacturer. It works! )
> ? Added trailer?Jack to improve safety
>
>
> Pictures:? ? I've posted some pics here: http://cid-475cacc7c0e86c18.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Boat ?
>
> btw:? since the manifolds are key to life expectancy of this model boat, there is a cleaning/lining process used by local hot rod and classic car shops that I am considering.? The process involves sand blasting, acid washing, and some type of "hot blue/Jet blue" process by which a synthetic coating?is put onto the parts that eliminates rust and reduces build up.? As I explore further, I'll share my findings with the forum.
>
> Again, thanks for the support!
>
> Best,
> John
> Lee (and Forum),
>
> A quick thank you for the support and recommendations that you've?made in support of my newbie questions.? My 67/68 Johnson Surfer is now running very very well on area lakes.? I've completed:
>
> Documentation: all rig OMC docs acquired on eBay
>
> ? Owner's manual
> ? Orig OMC Service Manual for boat (one used by authorized dealer repair technicians)
> ? Boat Parts
> ? Sterndrive parts
>
>
> Boat
>
> ? New fuel lines (Used the Stainless steel braided type due to close runs to the engine)
> ? power-washed both gas tanks, added new hose (flexible stuff from Napa) and custom cut new gas tank gaskets from cork/rubber gasket material (autozone)
> ? put in a Pertronix Electic Ignition system...don't want to mess with "Points"...highly recommend this upgrade at ~$85 and 10 mins of work
> ? Rebuilt Carb?with CK812 carburetor kit from www.carburetor.ca ? (Rusty/owner is VERY helpful and knowledgeable...knew which rebuilt kit to recommend immediately upon hearing engine and OMC/Marine use)
> ? General electrical repair and clean-up
>
>
> Trailer
>
> ? Key learning:? the rubber stopper on for the bow was incorrectly placed on top of trailer "stop" and this eliminated critical inches that -once corrected/place below metal holder- pulled the keel off the rollers
> ? New wheels
> ? Repaired Jack that lifts bow on trailer...seems like a unique design?I am guessing to eliminate?requirement for boat ramps (the thing with "teeth" inside...bearing??...anyway...got lucky and found similar online and matched the "look" even though from different manufacturer. It works! )
> ? Added trailer?Jack to improve safety
>
>
> Pictures:? ? I've posted some pics here: http://cid-475cacc7c0e86c18.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Boat ?
>
> btw:? since the manifolds are key to life expectancy of this model boat, there is a cleaning/lining process used by local hot rod and classic car shops that I am considering.? The process involves sand blasting, acid washing, and some type of "hot blue/Jet blue" process by which a synthetic coating?is put onto the parts that eliminates rust and reduces build up.? As I explore further, I'll share my findings with the forum.
>
> Again, thanks for the support!
>
> Best,
> John
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> From: Justin DeSantis <duc1098desmo@...>
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
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> If I'm not mistaken, that tie down arrangement in his pictures is the
> factory tie down and how Johnson recommends it's tied down.
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:17 PM, ANDY PERAKES
> <aperakes@...> wrote:
>> That is different. Anxious to hear how it works.
>>
>>
>>
>> John: I don't know if that's how you usually do your rear tie-downs, but
>> you should really be attaching to the transom. The upper deck cleat you're
>> attached to in the photos will allow the boat quite a bit of rearward travel
>> before cinching up and by then it may be too late.
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> '67 Reveler
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Scott Veazie" <scottveazie@...>
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:20:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>>
>> Hey John,
>>
>> I noticed in one of your pics that you had doel-fin type fins on the BACK of
>> your drive? I've never seen them mounted that way, how well does that
>> work? Anyone else see what I'm seeing?
>>
>> ~Scott
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: northphx@...
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:34:57 -0700
>> Subject: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>>
>> Lee (and Forum),
>>
>> A quick thank you for the support and recommendations that you've made in
>> support of my newbie questions. My 67/68 Johnson Surfer is now running very
>> very well on area lakes. I've completed:
>>
>> Documentation: all rig OMC docs acquired on eBay
>>
>> Owner's manual
>> Orig OMC Service Manual for boat (one used by authorized dealer repair
>> technicians)
>> Boat Parts
>> Sterndrive parts
>>
>> Boat
>>
>> New fuel lines (Used the Stainless steel braided type due to close runs to
>> the engine)
>> power-washed both gas tanks, added new hose (flexible stuff from Napa) and
>> custom cut new gas tank gaskets from cork/rubber gasket material (autozone)
>> put in a Pertronix Electic Ignition system...don't want to mess with
>> "Points"...highly recommend this upgrade at ~$85 and 10 mins of work
>> Rebuilt Carb with CK812 carburetor kit from www.carburetor.ca (Rusty/owner
>> is VERY helpful and knowledgeable...knew which rebuilt kit to recommend
>> immediately upon hearing engine and OMC/Marine use)
>> General electrical repair and clean-up
>>
>> Trailer
>>
>> Key learning: the rubber stopper on for the bow was incorrectly placed on
>> top of trailer "stop" and this eliminated critical inches that -once
>> corrected/place below metal holder- pulled the keel off the rollers
>> New wheels
>> Repaired Jack that lifts bow on trailer...seems like a unique design I am
>> guessing to eliminate requirement for boat ramps (the thing with "teeth"
>> inside...bearing??...anyway...got lucky and found similar online and matched
>> the "look" even though from different manufacturer. It works! )
>> Added trailer Jack to improve safety
>>
>> Pictures: I've posted some pics here:
>> http://cid-475cacc7c0e86c18.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Boat
>>
>> btw: since the manifolds are key to life expectancy of this model boat,
>> there is a cleaning/lining process used by local hot rod and classic car
>> shops that I am considering. The process involves sand blasting, acid
>> washing, and some type of "hot blue/Jet blue" process by which a synthetic
>> coating is put onto the parts that eliminates rust and reduces build up. As
>> I explore further, I'll share my findings with the forum.
>>
>> Again, thanks for the support!
>>
>> Best,
>> John
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:36:55 -0700
> From: Paul Blancplaines <northphx@...>
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Message-ID: <SNT106-W52D696BA74E2F4B850CDD7ACB90@...>
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>
> Scott, thanks for highlighting the fin location. It came attached as shown and appears to have been mounted that way for quite some time based on it's wear and age. In terms of performance, I am a first time boat owner, so don't have a point of reference. Based on its function the location does seem sub-optimal, so I've added a change to the Stingray XPII with a standard mounting to my to-do list. :)
>
>
>
> Justin,
>
>
>
> It very well could be a 67 and in the body of email I state 67/68 due to the fact that some documentation attributes 5 Bolt upper gearcase to 68+ and 4 Bolt to 67- and my boat has 5 bolts. Also, thanks for the clarification of Jet Blue. btw: It looks like you've done an impressive amount of restoration on your Surfer.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> John
>
>> From: omc-boats-request@...
>> Subject: OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:29:42 -0400
>>
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>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. Re: Thank you: 68 Surfer running great! (Justin DeSantis)
>> 2. Re: RV Anti-Freeze for winterizing? (Nexi)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:06:54 -0400
>> From: Justin DeSantis <duc1098desmo@...>
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
>> <omc-boats@...>
>> Message-ID:
>> <5282a5b50910260906i7e79b550qd350267ea5910f8e@...>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Are you sure that's not a 67 Surfer? It looks identical to mine, and
>> mine's a 67. I was under the impression that 67 was the only year for
>> that color. And I think the coating you're talking about it Jet Hot.
>> It's a ceramic coating. Very popular in the motorcycle industry. ever
>> heard of it being used on boats, but I guess it would work.
>>
>> Heres pictures of my Surfer (which will most likely be for sale in the
>> spring): http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/nitsujcbr/good%20ship%20lollypop/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Scott Veazie <scottveazie@...> wrote:
>> > Hey John,
>> >
>> > I noticed in one of your pics that you had doel-fin type fins on the BACK of
>> > your drive? I've never seen them mounted that way, how well does that
>> > work? Anyone else see what I'm seeing?
>> >
>> > ~Scott
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: northphx@...
>> > To: omc-boats@...
>> > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:34:57 -0700
>> > Subject: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>> >
>> > Lee (and Forum),
>> >
>> > A quick thank you for the support and recommendations that you've made in
>> > support of my newbie questions. My 67/68 Johnson Surfer is now running very
>> > very well on area lakes. I've completed:
>> >
>> > Documentation: all rig OMC docs acquired on eBay
>> >
>> > Owner's manual
>> > Orig OMC Service Manual for boat (one used by authorized dealer repair
>> > technicians)
>> > Boat Parts
>> > Sterndrive parts
>> >
>> > Boat
>> >
>> > New fuel lines (Used the Stainless steel braided type due to close runs to
>> > the engine)
>> > power-washed both gas tanks, added new hose (flexible stuff from Napa) and
>> > custom cut new gas tank gaskets from cork/rubber gasket material (autozone)
>> > put in a Pertronix Electic Ignition system...don't want to mess with
>> > "Points"...highly recommend this upgrade at ~$85 and 10 mins of work
>> > Rebuilt Carb with CK812 carburetor kit from www.carburetor.ca (Rusty/owner
>> > is VERY helpful and knowledgeable...knew which rebuilt kit to recommend
>> > immediately upon hearing engine and OMC/Marine use)
>> > General electrical repair and clean-up
>> >
>> > Trailer
>> >
>> > Key learning: the rubber stopper on for the bow was incorrectly placed on
>> > top of trailer "stop" and this eliminated critical inches that -once
>> > corrected/place below metal holder- pulled the keel off the rollers
>> > New wheels
>> > Repaired Jack that lifts bow on trailer...seems like a unique design I am
>> > guessing to eliminate requirement for boat ramps (the thing with "teeth"
>> > inside...bearing??...anyway...got lucky and found similar online and matched
>> > the "look" even though from different manufacturer. It works! )
>> > Added trailer Jack to improve safety
>> >
>> > Pictures: I've posted some pics here:
>> > http://cid-475cacc7c0e86c18.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Boat
>> >
>> > btw: since the manifolds are key to life expectancy of this model boat,
>> > there is a cleaning/lining process used by local hot rod and classic car
>> > shops that I am considering. The process involves sand blasting, acid
>> > washing, and some type of "hot blue/Jet blue" process by which a synthetic
>> > coating is put onto the parts that eliminates rust and reduces build up. As
>> > I explore further, I'll share my findings with the forum.
>> >
>> > Again, thanks for the support!
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > John
>> > ________________________________
>> > Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OMC-Boats mailing list
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>> >
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:02:49 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...>
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] RV Anti-Freeze for winterizing?
>> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
>> <omc-boats@...>
>> Message-ID: <356711.232.qm@...>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Here's a few pics of the connection I use for the hose. I did dump some
>> antifreeze in but it started coming out the exhaust ports pretty
>> quickly. At least I know there's no water in the stern drive. To fill
>> the engine itself I pulled a couple of the hoses and started pouring it
>> in, I still have a bit left to pour in but I got the process started. I'm going to keep pouring it into the engine until it starts coming out the petcock. That should keep the part of the engine below the petcock level from freezing up. I figure the antifreeze can't hurt.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: BC Howk <bchowk@...>
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 2:10:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] RV Anti-Freeze for winterizing?
>>
>> Where would you put the antifreeze in? I usually just open the petcock valves and drain the block, no water to freeze...
>>
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2009, Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...> wrote:
>> A neighbor suggested using RV Antifreeze for winterizing the block because it's the least expensive. Any thoughts?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:57:34 -0600
> From: "Lee K. Shuster \(lib1\)" <lib1@...>
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
> <omc-boats@...>
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> 5-bolt sterndrives were a mid-1967 improvement by OMC.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Blancplaines
> To: omc-boats@...
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
>
>
> Scott, thanks for highlighting the fin location. It came attached as shown and appears to have been mounted that way for quite some time based on it's wear and age. In terms of performance, I am a first time boat owner, so don't have a point of reference. Based on its function the location does seem sub-optimal, so I've added a change to the Stingray XPII with a standard mounting to my to-do list. :)
>
> Justin,
>
> It very well could be a 67 and in the body of email I state 67/68 due to the fact that some documentation attributes 5 Bolt upper gearcase to 68+ and 4 Bolt to 67- and my boat has 5 bolts. Also, thanks for the clarification of Jet Blue. btw: It looks like you've done an impressive amount of restoration on your Surfer.
>
> Best,
> John
>
> > From: omc-boats-request@...
> > Subject: OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
> > To: omc-boats@...
> > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:29:42 -0400
> >
> > Send OMC-Boats mailing list submissions to
> > omc-boats@...
> >
> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > http://lists.ultimate.com/mailman/listinfo/omc-boats
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > omc-boats-request@...
> >
> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > omc-boats-owner@...
> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of OMC-Boats digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: Thank you: 68 Surfer running great! (Justin DeSantis)
> > 2. Re: RV Anti-Freeze for winterizing? (Nexi)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:06:54 -0400
> > From: Justin DeSantis <duc1098desmo@...>
> > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
> > To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
> > <omc-boats@...>
> > Message-ID:
> > <5282a5b50910260906i7e79b550qd350267ea5910f8e@...>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Are you sure that's not a 67 Surfer? It looks identical to mine, and
> > mine's a 67. I was under the impression that 67 was the only year for
> > that color. And I think the coating you're talking about it Jet Hot.
> > It's a ceramic coating. Very popular in the motorcycle industry. ever
> > heard of it being used on boats, but I guess it would work.
> >
> > Heres pictures of my Surfer (which will most likely be for sale in the
> > spring): http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/nitsujcbr/good%20ship%20lollypop/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Scott Veazie <scottveazie@...il.com> wrote:
> > > Hey John,
> > >
> > > I noticed in one of your pics that you had doel-fin type fins on the BACK of
> > > your drive? I've never seen them mounted that way, how well does that
> > > work? Anyone else see what I'm seeing?
> > >
> > > ~Scott
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: northphx@...
> > > To: omc-boats@...
> > > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:34:57 -0700
> > > Subject: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
> > >
> > > Lee (and Forum),
> > >
> > > A quick thank you for the support and recommendations that you've made in
> > > support of my newbie questions. My 67/68 Johnson Surfer is now running very
> > > very well on area lakes. I've completed:
> > >
> > > Documentation: all rig OMC docs acquired on eBay
> > >
> > > Owner's manual
> > > Orig OMC Service Manual for boat (one used by authorized dealer repair
> > > technicians)
> > > Boat Parts
> > > Sterndrive parts
> > >
> > > Boat
> > >
> > > New fuel lines (Used the Stainless steel braided type due to close runs to
> > > the engine)
> > > power-washed both gas tanks, added new hose (flexible stuff from Napa) and
> > > custom cut new gas tank gaskets from cork/rubber gasket material (autozone)
> > > put in a Pertronix Electic Ignition system...don't want to mess with
> > > "Points"...highly recommend this upgrade at ~$85 and 10 mins of work
> > > Rebuilt Carb with CK812 carburetor kit from www.carburetor.ca (Rusty/owner
> > > is VERY helpful and knowledgeable...knew which rebuilt kit to recommend
> > > immediately upon hearing engine and OMC/Marine use)
> > > General electrical repair and clean-up
> > >
> > > Trailer
> > >
> > > Key learning: the rubber stopper on for the bow was incorrectly placed on
> > > top of trailer "stop" and this eliminated critical inches that -once
> > > corrected/place below metal holder- pulled the keel off the rollers
> > > New wheels
> > > Repaired Jack that lifts bow on trailer...seems like a unique design I am
> > > guessing to eliminate requirement for boat ramps (the thing with "teeth"
> > > inside...bearing??...anyway...got lucky and found similar online and matched
> > > the "look" even though from different manufacturer. It works! )
> > > Added trailer Jack to improve safety
> > >
> > > Pictures: I've posted some pics here:
> > > http://cid-475cacc7c0e86c18.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Boat
> > >
> > > btw: since the manifolds are key to life expectancy of this model boat,
> > > there is a cleaning/lining process used by local hot rod and classic car
> > > shops that I am considering. The process involves sand blasting, acid
> > > washing, and some type of "hot blue/Jet blue" process by which a synthetic
> > > coating is put onto the parts that eliminates rust and reduces build up. As
> > > I explore further, I'll share my findings with the forum.
> > >
> > > Again, thanks for the support!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > John
> > > ________________________________
> > > Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OMC-Boats mailing list
> > > OMC-Boats@...
> > > http://lists.ultimate.com/mailman/listinfo/omc-boats
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:02:49 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...>
> > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] RV Anti-Freeze for winterizing?
> > To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
> > <omc-boats@...>
> > Message-ID: <356711.232.qm@...>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Here's a few pics of the connection I use for the hose. I did dump some
> > antifreeze in but it started coming out the exhaust ports pretty
> > quickly. At least I know there's no water in the stern drive. To fill
> > the engine itself I pulled a couple of the hoses and started pouring it
> > in, I still have a bit left to pour in but I got the process started. I'm going to keep pouring it into the engine until it starts coming out the petcock. That should keep the part of the engine below the petcock level from freezing up. I figure the antifreeze can't hurt.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: BC Howk <bchowk@...>
> > To: omc-boats@...
> > Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 2:10:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] RV Anti-Freeze for winterizing?
> >
> > Where would you put the antifreeze in? I usually just open the petcock valves and drain the block, no water to freeze...
> >
> >
> > On Oct 13, 2009, Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...> wrote:
> > A neighbor suggested using RV Antifreeze for winterizing the block because it's the least expensive. Any thoughts?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >________________________________
> >
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> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:44:33 -0400 (EDT)
> From: ANDY PERAKES <aperakes@...>
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
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> The purpose of the rear tie down is two-fold,?keep the boat from bouncing off the trailer and keep it from sliding backwards should the bow line break.? Tying to deck cleats has two problems.? First, deck cleats are generally much weaker than transom or bow mounts.? They are unusually strong on these old OMC's, but typically they are designed for the relatively light duty loads of mooring.? Many deck cleats have been ripped out by unwary sailors who tried to use them to anchor?tow lines, occasionally striking a person on the opposite end of the rope with grave results.? The second reason is positioning.? If you look at John's pictures, you can see the line actually runs forward as it rises.? Should the bow line break, the boat will slide back 1 - 2' before the rear lines tighten?to hold the boat.? Once the boat starts moving,?you're dealing with much higher dynamic loads which increase the chances the line will break.? Its better than nothing, but its far from optimal.
>
>
>
> On another note, BoatUS just ran another article on storage with E10.? Nothing?new (use stabilizer, top off tank) , but another interesting read on the topic.? If the link works (may be?members only), here it is:? ? http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/boatus/200911/#/66 .? Lee, related to this topic, I've now talked to two additional triboligists who also agreed that no additive would restore any fuel or lubricant to "factory fresh" condition.? All agreed it does help to refresh the additives so at least we know we're not wasting money.
>
>
>
> Andy
>
> '67 Reveler
>
> ?
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Justin DeSantis" <duc1098desmo@...>
> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's" <omc-boats@...timate.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:50:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>
> If I'm not mistaken, that tie down arrangement in his pictures is the
> factory tie down and how Johnson recommends it's tied down.
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:17 PM, ANDY PERAKES
> <aperakes@...> wrote:
>> That is different. ?Anxious to hear how it works.
>>
>>
>>
>> John: ?I don't know if that's how you usually do your rear tie-downs, but
>> you should really be attaching to the transom. ?The upper deck cleat you're
>> attached to in the photos will allow the boat quite a bit of rearward travel
>> before cinching up and by then it may be too late.
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> '67 Reveler
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Scott Veazie" <scottveazie@...>
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:20:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>>
>> Hey John,
>>
>> I noticed in one of your pics that you had doel-fin type fins on the BACK of
>> your drive? ?I've never seen them mounted that way, how well does that
>> work? ?Anyone else see what I'm seeing?
>>
>> ~Scott
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: northphx@...
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:34:57 -0700
>> Subject: [OMC-Boats] Thank you: 68 Surfer running great!
>>
>> Lee (and Forum),
>>
>> A quick thank you for the support and recommendations that you've made in
>> support of my newbie questions. ?My 67/68 Johnson Surfer is now running very
>> very well on area lakes. ?I've completed:
>>
>> Documentation: all rig OMC docs acquired on eBay
>>
>> Owner's manual
>> Orig OMC Service Manual for boat (one used by authorized dealer repair
>> technicians)
>> Boat Parts
>> Sterndrive parts
>>
>> Boat
>>
>> New fuel lines (Used the Stainless steel braided type due to close runs to
>> the engine)
>> power-washed both gas tanks, added new hose (flexible stuff from Napa) and
>> custom cut new gas tank gaskets from cork/rubber gasket material (autozone)
>> put in a Pertronix Electic Ignition system...don't want to mess with
>> "Points"...highly recommend this upgrade at ~$85 and 10 mins of work
>> Rebuilt Carb with CK812 carburetor kit from www.carburetor.ca ?(Rusty/owner
>> is VERY helpful and knowledgeable...knew which rebuilt kit to recommend
>> immediately upon hearing engine and OMC/Marine use)
>> General electrical repair and clean-up
>>
>> Trailer
>>
>> Key learning: ?the rubber stopper on for the bow was incorrectly placed on
>> top of trailer "stop" and this eliminated critical inches that -once
>> corrected/place below metal holder- pulled the keel off the rollers
>> New wheels
>> Repaired Jack that lifts bow on trailer...seems like a unique design I am
>> guessing to eliminate requirement for boat ramps (the thing with "teeth"
>> inside...bearing??...anyway...got lucky and found similar online and matched
>> the "look" even though from different manufacturer. It works! )
>> Added trailer Jack to improve safety
>>
>> Pictures: ? I've posted some pics here:
>> http://cid-475cacc7c0e86c18.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Boat
>>
>> btw: ?since the manifolds are key to life expectancy of this model boat,
>> there is a cleaning/lining process used by local hot rod and classic car
>> shops that I am considering. ?The process involves sand blasting, acid
>> washing, and some type of "hot blue/Jet blue" process by which a synthetic
>> coating is put onto the parts that eliminates rust and reduces build up. ?As
>> I explore further, I'll share my findings with the forum.
>>
>> Again, thanks for the support!
>>
>> Best,
>> John
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