RE: [omc-boats] 69 rogue

From: Tom Paquette <tpaquette@...>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:19:15 -0400

Mine is an outboard. It is a Sport 14…. The water gets into the plywood
via the engine bolts. If you unmount the motor and take off the aluminum
plate you will find the plywood is dry rotted. You can press a screwdriver
or other tool into it without any/much pressure……Mine also looked dry rotted
but not too bad till I really checked out the spots that I thought were only
slightly bad….

 

The boat was always under shelter except during summer usage….

 

What I have done is used a small saws-all type tool to cut the back seat
section from the hull. There is actually a lot of epoxy in the seam so if
you go slow you wont cut the seat section or hull.

 

Once It was cut at the hull it lifted right out.

 

My fears were reaffirmed as the section of plywood between the seating top
hull and the body where they meet for engine mounting was basically all dry
rotted. I used a large screw driver and a chisel by hand and scrapped it
from the outside hull fiber glass. So there was no need to cut the outside
hull at all.

 

The transom plywood sits directly on the floor plywood so if the floor is
solid you don’t have to worry about any major surgery other than the seat /
hull joint.

 

My floor was shot too so I pulled it at the same time.

 

I guess I was fortunate in that the foam was dry except for a small amount
of water in the very top area of the foam and it did dry out. Maybe you
will have the same luck in no major water absorption.

 

I am currently prepping to reinstall everything.

 

I can send photos of how it looks as it is disassembled if that would help
you.

 

Tom

Charlotte - NC

 

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From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On
Behalf Of Ian Torrey
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:47 AM
To: 'omc-boats@...'
Subject: RE: [omc-boats] 69 rogue

 

I've been following the many discussions on waterlogged foam, and am
wondering the best way to assess this without ripping up my floors? I have a
Sweet 16 that I bought several years ago. Prior to that it had been in dry
storage for about 5 years, but for the last 2 has been sitting outside at my
house waiting for TLC. Can you tell the state of the foam by putting her in
the water and measuring buoyancy? Can it's condition be assessed on land? It
looks like there have been some minor hull repairs done in the past, but
nothing major.

 

Also, the transom appears to not be perfectly straight vertically, with a
bit of a cant outward just below the outboard motor mounts, and looks to
have been reinforced with some threaded rod running forward to just behind
the seats, so I'm wondering if I might be in for transom replacement as
well. Any suggestions on how to assess how much work I might be in for? I
know this is more of a stringer-based discussion, but it's also the best
wealth of knowledge I've found as a guy with an outboard :)

 

Thanks,

Ian

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From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...]On
Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:05 AM
To: omc-boats@...
Subject: Re: [omc-boats] 69 rogue

No, you can not leave the foam - it will not dry out - I removed the foam,
left it sitting beside my garage for the entire summer, in the sun, and it
never did dry out - the water is locked in!
The foam was injected under a very large press and under a lot of pressure -
don't recall how many pounds - but lots - turns out it was a poor choice of
foam type - of course the floors were all glassed in and completely covered
with glass - leaving only the screw holes for water seepage - but over the
years, especially when left outside and uncovered - water did the job. Dave

Tom Paquette wrote:

I would leave the foam and let it air out. I understand it was put in under
extreme pressure. There is an Evirude brochure on gullwing that talks about
it. It is

Boat <http://www.ultimate.com/omc-boats/gallery/lit.html>
ads/literature/brochures dated 1/1/2006 Scroll down and the brochures
actually shopws the manufacturing and assembly process in the plant. It
helped me a lot...

http://www.ultimate.com/omc-boats/gallery/lit.html

Mine took about 2-3 weeks to dry out completely. Near the end I put a small
fan in it and let it run when I was home for air circulation etc.

I'm guessing the foam is structural for the flooring. Did yours have inch
plywood floor with about 4 inch pieces underneath the seams running across
for seaming the floor?

Cant help with the inboard issue as mine is an outboard....

Hope this helps!

We should send each other pictures so we can see our progress.

Tom

Charlotte- NC

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From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On
Behalf Of Bill Desmond
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 4:15 PM
To: omc-boats@...
Subject: [omc-boats] 69 rogue

Well I took out the floor and started getting rid of the foam. It doesnt
seem that bad so im probably going to keep her. I cant believe the weight
of the foam. Is there foam under the motor too? Will I have to refoam for
structural reasons, or is it just a safety issue?

Also the tilt gears are binding when it is going up. Anybody have any
similar problems?

Daemian

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