Re: [OMC-Boats] Stringer Tilt solution

From: BC Howk <bchowk@...>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:44:12 -0500 (CDT)

While I appreciate that you are innovating a solution for the tilt system and am myself curious about it.....I think I'm a little bit with Andy on this one, not insulted at all, but curious what your point is.
If you are trying to see if people here will BUY your system? here are a couple of questions for you.

You stated that the solution is for the 400 and 800 outdrives, correct? So for the group, how many of you have a 400 or 800 outdrive? Maybe Lee could help me out here, but I don't think OMC started using 400's till the mid 70's and therefore NOBODY with a Johnson or Evinrude Boat should have one, right? So the next logical question, will the new solution work on the older stringers too? My guess is that the solution COULD be adapted but without any info...who knows...Maybe you could send us a link when you get your patent sorted?

I have had some issues with the tilt motor in my 40 year old boat, true, AND as I recently broadcasted to the group, was an IDIOT and ran my boat into the rocks and am therefore OH SOOOO grateful that I had the clutch system in place to prevent SERIOUS damage to my outdrive, So if my choice is to save 100 bucks every 40 years or so on a tilt Motor OR deal with a clutch pack that has NEVER failed and in FACT recently saved my behind from several thousand dollar repair, I'll choose what I have 6 days a week and twice on Sunday...So without any more info, I MUST side with Andy here my tilt system is pretty darn good, if you ask me...

Not trying to be rude here, sir, and let me respectfuly reiterate I am INTERESTED in your solution, however this is a pretty savy group that loves their boats. If you are a fellow OMC Boat lover, please stick around, we can always use fresh perspectives and experienced advice...however, IMHO request you restrain from touting a solution you cannot share until you can share it, please.

Looking forward to reading about your innovation and wishing great success for your patent.


On Aug 26, 2009, BreAnne Upcott <h2onsnow@...> wrote:

 I'm sorry you took that as an insult, but if I show you a picture or illustration at this point, It negates my legal responsibility until the patent is filed and I have protection. You cant be mad at me for following the rules. Your lucky as far as the longevity of your tilt system. You obviously maintain well. KUDOS.  I've been repairing the stringers for over 31 years and have seen my fair share of frustrated customers. People in general that owned these boats were not in state of mind to do repairs, let alone maintain fluids. Do a little more Due Diligence before monkeying up my back. its one of the reasons many people scrubbed their attempt to repair it ( the clutch pack (N/A) and expense of the motor.Avg $100.00 (a mediocre motor for that stress application). I have seen people bolt their clutch packs together so it tilts. A dangerous remedy for lower end underwater collisions. The clutch pack was designed to slip in the event of an underwater obstacle. Mine will do the same, but not in the same location as the clutch pack It is also a reduction gear setup, so the outdrive does not drop down at the original rate. I'm sure you have experience with relieving your finger off the switch so the outdrive doesn't slam down so hard. There are other better features included that make it virtually maintenance free. Like I stated in the previous post, I will be adding Illustrations after the patent has been finalized.
 Thank you

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Andy Perakes <aperakes@...> wrote:
Apologies for my bluntness here, but if you can't tell me anything about it then don't waste my time not telling me about it!  I've got 42 years (and going) on my ORIGINAL tilt -- I hardly call that a bad design.
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Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Stringer Tilt solution

I'm not at liberty to send any illustrations at this point since its in the middle of being patented.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Scott Veazie <scottveazie@...> wrote:
Do you have an illustration on how this would be done?  I'm curious, sounds like a great idea, for future problems down the road that might pop up with the old system. 

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:30:57 -0400
From: h2onsnow@...
To: omc-boats@...
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Stringer Tilt solution

The stringer outdrives were made by the Omc Corp. and used in evinrude, johnson sterndrive boats as well as Thompson and others. They have a direct drive electric motor with a worm gear and oil bath clutch pack for tilting the outdive. The clutch packs are no longer available and the design was tough on the motor, especially at around 100.00 for just the motor. The motor was also close to the flor of the boat which induced moisture buildup. My system would eliminate the need for the clutch pack and reduce the stress put on the motor for longer motor life. And relocate the motor higher for less moisture buildup.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Justin DeSantis <duc1098desmo@...> wrote:
When you say solution, what problem are you solving? And which boats
use those outdrives?

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Bre<h2onsnow@...> wrote:
> I have come up with a solution for the tilt system for the stringer, 400 and
> 800 outdrives. I am trying to find a market for it and would like feedback
> on the need for this improvement. Just a glimps of what it would include is
> no need for any clutch pack and easier mounting for the motor.
>  Thank you.
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