RE: [omc-boats] 69 rogue

From: Tom Paquette <tpaquette@...>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:26:41 -0400

Sorry for the “chatter” everyone…. You did get me to thinking though. I’d
hate to have a giant sponge under my new floor.

 

What type of foam did you use to replace the foam. I’m at the point where I
could cut out All the old foam and replace it and then cut the uneven spots
level for the floor after it expands, As I have no attachment points for the
floor with out the foam…so no form to force the foam into…

 

Thanks!

 

Tom

 

 

 

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From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On
Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:57 PM
To: omc-boats@...
Subject: Re: [omc-boats] 69 rogue

 

Tom, Some of the sterndrive models have visable stringers and many don't -
my 1970 Johnson has visable stringers only in the engine compartment - you
can't tell if they run forward of the engine compartment, but I assume they
do. I know that all models depended on the foam to add rigidity to the
entire hull and that, coupled with the top decks being glassed on, gave the
boats great rigidity for rough going. Dave

Tom Paquette wrote:

Hi Dave,

 

Do the inboards have visible stringers? I don’t see any stringers in my
outboard sport14 all I see foam. I know there are glass stringers somewhere
under the foam but the floor most certainly doesn’t attach to them on mine.
So I may be off a little in the Inboard stringer conversation as to leaving
the foam. I would guess if the stringers are visible and the floor attached
to them then the foam in the I/O is for collision buoyancy safety…

 

Tom

 

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From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On
Behalf Of jdood
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:11 PM
To: omc-boats@...
Subject: RE: [omc-boats] 69 rogue

 

Hi – just joined this group…..nice to see that it’s so active! I have 65’ (
I think) Deluxe project underway and soon hope to get it in the water.
Same problem – soggy foam. The thought of all that water logged foam
sitting in the bottom of my boat really bothers me. May not be a huge rot
issue, but just the extra weight of it annoys me. Might be faster without
it! Until reading these posts, I had planned on making some access holes,
and just letting it air out over a couple weeks. But it sounds like about
the only fix there is is to scrape out as much foam as you can? Another
person asked this too – once all or most of the foam is gone, does it need
to be replaced for safety and/or buoyancy, or would it be okay to cover
everything back up and not replace the foam? I am going to be re-carpeting
soon, so I need to deal with the issue now, or I may never be able to.

 

Thanks,

jeff

 

 

 

 

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From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On
Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 7:05 AM
To: omc-boats@...
Subject: Re: [omc-boats] 69 rogue

 

No, you can not leave the foam - it will not dry out - I removed the foam,
left it sitting beside my garage for the entire summer, in the sun, and it
never did dry out - the water is locked in!
The foam was injected under a very large press and under a lot of pressure -
don't recall how many pounds - but lots - turns out it was a poor choice of
foam type - of course the floors were all glassed in and completely covered
with glass - leaving only the screw holes for water seepage - but over the
years, especially when left outside and uncovered - water did the job. Dave

Tom Paquette wrote:

I would leave the foam and let it air out. I understand it was put in under
extreme pressure. There is an Evirude brochure on gullwing that talks about
it. It is

 

Boat <http://www.ultimate.com/omc-boats/gallery/lit.html>
ads/literature/brochures dated 1/1/2006 Scroll down and the brochures
actually shopws the manufacturing and assembly process in the plant. It
helped me a lot…

 

http://www.ultimate.com/omc-boats/gallery/lit.html

 

Mine took about 2-3 weeks to dry out completely. Near the end I put a small
fan in it and let it run when I was home for air circulation etc.

 

I’m guessing the foam is structural for the flooring. Did yours have inch
plywood floor with about 4 inch pieces underneath the seams running across
for seaming the floor?

 

Cant help with the inboard issue as mine is an outboard….

 

Hope this helps!

 

We should send each other pictures so we can see our progress.

 

Tom

Charlotte- NC

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On
Behalf Of Bill Desmond
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 4:15 PM
To: omc-boats@...
Subject: [omc-boats] 69 rogue

 

Well I took out the floor and started getting rid of the foam. It doesnt
seem that bad so im probably going to keep her. I cant believe the weight
of the foam. Is there foam under the motor too? Will I have to refoam for
structural reasons, or is it just a safety issue?

Also the tilt gears are binding when it is going up. Anybody have any
similar problems?

Daemian

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