Re: [OMC-Boats] Evinrude pushbutton to Johnson/OMC control conversion

From: Scott Veazie <scottveazie@...>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:34:58 -0700

Well, I just converted over my Evinrude controls to OMC/Johnson single lever control, and after spending way too much time on it, it's installed and working great. The biggest issue by far was the alignment of the actual throttle cable, in that it was adjusted too short to work with the Johnson setup. After fiddling around far too long, I finally decided to disconnect the cable from the carb, then get it right on the control box. after doing that, I turned the adjustment knob on the engine end to lengthen it out to the correct length. It's key though to make sure you disconnect it from the carb FIRST, get it right on the control box, then go forward. I could not get it right still hooked up.

In regards to the electrical connection, since my 68 Evinrude pushbuttons didn't accomodate for the neutral lockout, I had to get creative. I unhooked the stock harness from the actual push buttons, then took the OMC five wire harness, cut it off, and put terminal connectors on only the purple, green, and blue wires, but not the two whites. I left those out since I didn't want to mess with neutral lockout. Basically, you just use the red wire from the boat harness and go to the purple on the control box, then green to green and blue to blue. It works great! Anyway, thought I'd share my progress.

From: Lee.Shuster@...
To: omc-boats@...
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:47:07 -0600
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Evinrude pushbutton to Johnson/OMC control conversion

a) Re-using the same throttle cable should not be a problem. Check
the illustrated parts guides on line to make sure.
 
b) You can view the color wiring diagram for the interlock wiring
changes required between the remote control and the helm. Fairly easy to do.
You'll probably need to replace the connector with something
else.
 
c) All the OMC OEM single lever controls and the Johnson single
levers are identical except for their decals.

From: omc-boats-bounces@...
[mailto:omc-boats-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Scott
Veazie
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:00 AM
To:
omc-boats@...
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Evinrude
pushbutton to Johnson/OMC control conversion

Hey Lee,
 
Thanks for all the information, I'll clarify
further on what I have.
 
I bought an actual OMC Stern Drive labeled
black box, one that OMC sold to 3rd party mfrs for the electric shift stern
drive, so it's the correct setup. The guy I got it from had already tested
it, so I don't have to worry about that, for now. I plan on keeping my
Evinrude controls as a backup. This controller does have the five wire
plug on it, so I'd either need to not use the extra two wires, or do the
smart thing and adapt in the lockout feature. It's for sure not
a Johnson Hydro-electric, it's a true OMC electric shift unit. I was
mainly concerned with reusing my Evinrude cable, and adapting in the
five-wire setup.
 
~Scott
 

From: lks@...
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:07:44 -0600
To:
omc-boats@...
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Evinrude pushbutton to
Johnson/OMC control conversion

I'm slightly confused by your e-mail and photos.

1) If you are asking whether you can use your existing Evinrude throttle
cable on the Johnson control? Then I believe the answer is yes, both J&E
controls hook up to the same throttle cable.

2) Your boat helm wiring must be adapted or modified to incorporate the
safety lockout feature AND the Johnson remote control switch must have 5-wires
not 3. You didn't show the electrical connector in your pictures or specifically
say whether the Johnson has the appropriate switch.

3) As you didn't save the old e-mails, you might not remember that if the
Johnson control has the improper switch for the later Hydro-electric Outboards
hooking it up to your electric stringer will potentially cause lower case damage
engaging both shift coils (F/R) at the same time. You can order the new
five-wire switch from Hansen Marine in Salt LAke City, listed on my site: http://hhscott.com/evinrude/sources.html

4) There is a very high probability that the switch shown in your remote
control is already defective or will soon become defective. This is a well-known
"achilles heel," of this remote control design.

Lee

On Sep 24, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Scott Veazie wrote:
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Well, I just converted over my Evinrude controls to OMC/Johnson single lever control, and after spending way too much time on it, it's installed and working great.&nbsp; The biggest issue by far was the alignment of the actual throttle cable, in that it was adjusted too short to work with the Johnson setup.&nbsp; After fiddling around far too long, I finally decided to disconnect the cable from the carb, then get it right on the control box.&nbsp; after doing that, I turned the adjustment knob on the engine end to lengthen it out to the correct length.&nbsp; It's key though to make sure you disconnect it from the carb FIRST, get it right on the control box, then go forward.&nbsp; I could not get it right still hooked up.<br><br>In regards to the electrical connection, since my 68 Evinrude pushbuttons didn't accomodate for the neutral lockout, I had to get creative.&nbsp; I unhooked the stock harness from the actual push buttons, then took the OMC five wire harness, cut it off, and put terminal connectors on only the purple, green, and blue wires, but not the two whites.&nbsp; I left those out since I didn't want to mess with neutral lockout.&nbsp; Basically, you just use the red wire from the boat harness and go to the purple on the control box, then green to green and blue to blue.&nbsp; It works great!&nbsp; Anyway, thought I'd share my progress.<br><br><br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">From: Lee.Shuster@...<br>To: omc-boats@...<br>Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:47:07 -0600<br>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Evinrude pushbutton to Johnson/OMC control conversion<br><br>

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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="ecx031384215-25092009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">a) Re-using the same throttle cable should not be a problem. Check
the illustrated parts guides on line to make sure.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="ecx031384215-25092009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="ecx031384215-25092009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">b) You can view the color wiring diagram for the interlock wiring
changes required between the remote control and the helm. Fairly easy to do.
You'll probably need to replace the connector with something
else.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="ecx031384215-25092009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="ecx031384215-25092009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">c) All the OMC OEM single lever controls and the Johnson single
levers are identical except for their decals.</font></span></div><br>
<div class="ecxOutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us">
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<font face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> omc-boats-bounces@...
[mailto:omc-boats-bounces@...] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott
Veazie<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 25, 2009 9:00 AM<br><b>To:</b>
omc-boats@...<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OMC-Boats] Evinrude
pushbutton to Johnson/OMC control conversion<br></font><br></div>
<div></div>Hey Lee,<br>&nbsp;<br>Thanks for all the information, I'll clarify
further on what I have.<br>&nbsp;<br>I bought an actual OMC Stern Drive labeled
black box, one that OMC sold to 3rd party&nbsp;mfrs for the electric shift stern
drive, so it's the correct setup.&nbsp; The guy I got it from had already tested
it, so I don't have to worry about that, for now.&nbsp; I plan on keeping my
Evinrude controls as a backup.&nbsp; This controller does have the five wire
plug on it, so I'd&nbsp;either need to not use the extra two wires, or do the
smart thing and&nbsp;adapt in the lockout&nbsp;feature.&nbsp; It's for sure not
a Johnson Hydro-electric, it's a true OMC electric shift unit.&nbsp; I was
mainly concerned with reusing my&nbsp;Evinrude cable, and adapting in the
five-wire setup.<br>&nbsp;<br>~Scott<br>&nbsp;<br>
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From: lks@...<br>Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:07:44 -0600<br>To:
omc-boats@...<br>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Evinrude pushbutton to
Johnson/OMC control conversion<br><br>
<div><br></div>
<div>I'm slightly confused by your e-mail and photos.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>1) If you are asking whether you can use your existing Evinrude throttle
cable on the Johnson control? Then I believe the answer is yes, both J&amp;E
controls hook up to the same throttle cable.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>2) Your boat helm wiring must be adapted or modified to incorporate the
safety lockout feature AND the Johnson remote control switch must have 5-wires
not 3. You didn't show the electrical connector in your pictures or specifically
say whether the Johnson has the appropriate switch.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>3) As you didn't save the old e-mails, you might not remember that if the
Johnson control has the improper switch for the later Hydro-electric Outboards
hooking it up to your electric stringer will potentially cause lower case damage
engaging both shift coils (F/R) at the same time. &nbsp;You can order the new
five-wire switch from Hansen Marine in Salt LAke City, listed on my site: http://hhscott.com/evinrude/sources.html</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>4) There is a very high probability that the switch shown in your remote
control is already defective or will soon become defective. This is a well-known
"achilles heel," of this remote control design.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Lee</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div><br>
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