Re: [OMC-Boats] Coil Spring

I've heated my springs and bent them again. It's not easy, but it works.
Just heat the very end, and bend it to a 90, cool it off. Try not to heat up
more than you need to though.

You are forced to do this when you can't find a replacement part, or the
price is just ridiculous.

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> HELLO THEIR; can someone direct me some refrence to a replacement spring
> for my out drive on my 69 sportsman 155 it's the forword spring i can get
> one thru evinrude for 344dollers but is their some were i can get one a
> littel cheaper 0r is their a way i can fix my old one the ear that hooks
> on the housing is broke of can i just heat this up and bend the ear on
> then quwench it in cool water to temper it again if that would work or
> replace the reverse spring for the forword one.thanks for any help or
> suggestions leo owner 1969 sportsman.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>> 1. Re: Upper Unit Seal questions (BLDFW)
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>>Message: 1
>>Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:58:20 -0700 (PDT)
>>From: BLDFW <bldfw@...>
>>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>>To: Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...>
>>Cc: omc-boats@...
>>Message-ID: <457939.28806.qm@...>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>>Ethan,
>>
>>How's that for sticker shock?!!
>>
>>Here's the list I came up with which is comprised of anything that
>>referenced "O-rings" or "Seals".? I'm not fully sure I need all these
>>parts, especially those marked with an "**".?
>>
>>Do those types of oil seals usually get replaced when resealing an
>>outdrive?
>>
>>-Bill
>>
>>
>>Ref Vendor PN???? Name???????????????????? OEM PN???? Price
>>4)? 18-7128??? -- O-Ring 18-7128?????????? (310590)?? 1.15??? 1.15
>>13) 310327???? -- O RING?????????????????? (310327)?? 1.80??? 3.60
>>16) 308622???? -- Vintage, O-RING????????? (308622)?? 2.73??? 2.73
>>17) 308588???? -- Vintage, GASKET????????? (308588)?? 6.53??? 6.53
>>26) 308768???? -- SEAL-GEAR HSG??????????? (308768)?? 7.70??? 7.70
>>27) 308590???? -- SPRING?????????????????? (308590)?? 5.25??? 5.25
>>32) 18-7121??? -- O-Ring 18-7121?????????? (308621)?? 1.28??? 1.28
>>38) 308592???? -- GASKET?????????????????? (308592)?? 1.47??? 2.94
>>46) 310611**?? -- Vintage, OIL SEAL??????? (310611)? 30.82?? 61.64
>>48) 310581**?? -- VINTAGE,SEAL-BEARING HSG (310581)? 50.00? 100.00
>>49) 310585???? -- O RING?????????????????? (310585)?? 1.61??? 1.61
>>50) 553126???? -- O RING?????????????????? (553126)?? 3.00??? 3.00
>>52) 18-7198-9? -- O-Ring 18-7198-9 (5/PKG) (308626)?? 5.34??? 5.34
>>60) 18-3108??? -- S.S. Steel Key 18-3108?? (308928)?? 6.38??? 6.38
>>61) 379475???? -- Impeller 777130????????? (379475)? 22.00?? 22.00
>>64) 18-2020??? -- Oil Seal 18-200????????? (310649)? 12.73?? 25.46
>>79) 9-76512??? -- SEAL RING GASKET 9-76512 (303059)?? 1.27??? 1.27
>>83) 379587**?? -- Vintage, RETAINER & SEAL (379587)? 72.00?? 72.00
>>All prices are in US Dollars
>>??????????????????????????????????????????? Subtotal??????? 329.88
>>??????????????????????????????????????????? Shipping????????? 0.00
>>??????????????????????????????????????????? TOTAL?????????? 329.88
>>(REF = reference number on the exploded diagrams)
>>
>>--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...> wrote:
>>
>>From: Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...>
>>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>>To: "BLDFW" <bldfw@...>
>>Cc: omc-boats@...
>>Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 9:56 AM
>>
>>On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, BLDFW wrote:
>>>Using the correct parts manual, I'm compiling a seals and o-ring listing
>>>so I can properly reseal my upper unit.? Fortunately all of
>>>the "seals and o-rings" are still available individually through
>>>MarineEngine.com so I'm about to place the order
>>
>>I'd be interested in seeing your list when you get all done - I noticed
>>some water in my upper unit oil last time I winterized and I'm planning on
>>tearing it apart this winter to replace whatever seal has gone bad.? A
>>list
>>of parts and vendors would certain help this process.
>>
>>> PN 308768 Exhaust Seal
>>> PN 308590 Spring? (related to the previous part)
>>> They appear to seal the exhaust outlet in the upper unit where it mates
>>> with the port on the intermediate housing.? I don't see anything that
>>> resembles these them on my upper unit (see pic).?? Is this a part that
>>> gets lost?? The inside of the upper unit cavity around the port is all
>>> black so it's not been there for awhile
>>
>>The "exhaust seal" is this large black rubber ring gasket that fits in the
>>outdrive, where it seals up against the intermediate housing.? The gasket
>>slips onto the outdrive side and seals around the outer edge.? I'm not
>>quite sure what the spring is, but perhaps it fits around the gasket and
>>pinches it in place?? I've always thought it looked prone to falling off,
>>especially when trailering with the drive raised.? I never thought about
>>whether there might be a spring to hold it in place - perhaps that's why I
>>haven't lost mine.? I thought the gasket was visibly "split" (i.e. a gap
>>in
>>one location)? though, which would correspond to not having a spring. but
>>perhaps I'm mis-remembering.? I just looked at the parts list though:
>>
>>at epc.brp.com
>>sterndrive
>>1970
>>155
>>HUFM-19E-1970
>>
>>and 308768 is the "Exhast seal" and 308590 is the "Spring, seal" and
>>they're part 26 and 27, which correspond to what I remember.? So it's
>>probably a two-piece gasket with a retaining spring... Ahh, it looks like
>>it's a rubber gasket with a split spring stretched over it - the spring is
>>probably a bent ring of spring steel that pinches the gasket into place,
>>rather than the long tension spring loop I was expecting.
>>
>>Here's a picture from when I had my outdrive separated:
>>? http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~brodskye/boat/parts/out_upper.jpg
>>The seals is around the perimeter of the circular port in the front center
>>of the drive (with the vertical division going down the middle).
>>
>>> Also, one other question.? PN 308596 Seal, is the big round plastic seal
>>> that the water pump housing slips through when placed in position inside
>>> the exhaust housing.? It's a $38.00 part.? Mine is present and in good
>>> condition.? I'm not seeing any reason to replace it.? Anyone got an
>>> opinion on that?
>>
>>
>>308596 is the "seal, exhuast housing", which I remember being a huge
>>gasket
>>that fits between the upper and lower unit (#38) - the drive rotates on
>>it.
>>Mine was pretty ratty, but I forgot to order a new one, and haven't had
>>any
>>issues there yet after five years.? The upper and lower gear casings are
>>sealed separately, so I think the only consequence of having a bad seal
>>there would be leakage of exhaust out of the drive around the perimeter,
>>which shouldn't be a big deal.? I wouldn't worry about it, especially if
>>yours looks good.
>>
>>Ethan
>>
>>
>>--
>> Ethan Brodsky
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>>Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:22:49 -0600
>>From: Lee Shuster <lee.k.shuster@...>
>>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>>To: "'Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's'"
>> <omc-boats@...>, Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...>
>>Message-ID:
>> <A862F82A5046A24EAAB14F5651B69AE344AA072111@...>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>Just a reminder:
>>
>>To anyone who already owns an OMC Sterndrive parts Manual: The BRP site
>>has an excellent online parts site that includes illustrations and
>>ORIGINAL part numbers.
>>
>>You would be surprised how many of these OMC parts are still available
>>thru their dealers.
>>
>>see:
>>http://12.2.215.22/pub/default.asp?SessionId=864c21840bbf468d8751887fc2abdf5d&Lang=EN&brands=EJ,ATV,SEADOO,SKIDOO,SPORTBOAT,LYNX,ROADSTER
>>
>>The parts directory on sterndrives goes back to the 1967-1/2 (16C-series)
>>which is where the "modern" era of the 5-bolt top cap electric shift
>>started.
>>
>>Lee
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>From: omc-boats-bounces@...
>>[mailto:omc-boats-bounces@...] On Behalf Of BLDFW
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:58 AM
>>To: Ethan Brodsky
>>Cc: omc-boats@...
>>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>>
>>Ethan,
>>
>>How's that for sticker shock?!!
>>
>>Here's the list I came up with which is comprised of anything that
>>referenced "O-rings" or "Seals". I'm not fully sure I need all these
>>parts, especially those marked with an "**".
>>
>>Do those types of oil seals usually get replaced when resealing an
>>outdrive?
>>
>>-Bill
>>
>>
>>Ref Vendor PN Name OEM PN Price
>>4) 18-7128 -- O-Ring 18-7128 (310590) 1.15 1.15
>>13) 310327 -- O RING (310327) 1.80 3.60
>>16) 308622 -- Vintage, O-RING (308622) 2.73 2.73
>>17) 308588 -- Vintage, GASKET (308588) 6.53 6.53
>>26) 308768 -- SEAL-GEAR HSG (308768) 7.70 7.70
>>27) 308590 -- SPRING (308590) 5.25 5.25
>>32) 18-7121 -- O-Ring 18-7121 (308621) 1.28 1.28
>>38) 308592 -- GASKET (308592) 1.47 2.94
>>46) 310611** -- Vintage, OIL SEAL (310611) 30.82 61.64
>>48) 310581** -- VINTAGE,SEAL-BEARING HSG (310581) 50.00 100.00
>>49) 310585 -- O RING (310585) 1.61 1.61
>>50) 553126 -- O RING (553126) 3.00 3.00
>>52) 18-7198-9 -- O-Ring 18-7198-9 (5/PKG) (308626) 5.34 5.34
>>60) 18-3108 -- S.S. Steel Key 18-3108 (308928) 6.38 6.38
>>61) 379475 -- Impeller 777130 (379475) 22.00 22.00
>>64) 18-2020 -- Oil Seal 18-200 (310649) 12.73 25.46
>>79) 9-76512 -- SEAL RING GASKET 9-76512 (303059) 1.27 1.27
>>83) 379587** -- Vintage, RETAINER & SEAL (379587) 72.00 72.00
>>All prices are in US Dollars
>> Subtotal 329.88
>> Shipping 0.00
>> TOTAL 329.88
>>(REF = reference number on the exploded diagrams)
>>
>>--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...> wrote:
>>
>>From: Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...>
>>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>>To: "BLDFW" <bldfw@...>
>>Cc: omc-boats@...
>>Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 9:56 AM
>>
>>On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, BLDFW wrote:
>>>Using the correct parts manual, I'm compiling a seals and o-ring listing
>>>so I can properly reseal my upper unit. Fortunately all of
>>>the "seals and o-rings" are still available individually through
>>>MarineEngine.com so I'm about to place the order
>>
>>I'd be interested in seeing your list when you get all done - I noticed
>>some water in my upper unit oil last time I winterized and I'm planning on
>>tearing it apart this winter to replace whatever seal has gone bad. A
>>list
>>of parts and vendors would certain help this process.
>>
>>> PN 308768 Exhaust Seal
>>> PN 308590 Spring (related to the previous part)
>>> They appear to seal the exhaust outlet in the upper unit where it mates
>>> with the port on the intermediate housing. I don't see anything that
>>> resembles these them on my upper unit (see pic). Is this a part that
>>> gets lost? The inside of the upper unit cavity around the port is all
>>> black so it's not been there for awhile
>>
>>The "exhaust seal" is this large black rubber ring gasket that fits in the
>>outdrive, where it seals up against the intermediate housing. The gasket
>>slips onto the outdrive side and seals around the outer edge. I'm not
>>quite sure what the spring is, but perhaps it fits around the gasket and
>>pinches it in place? I've always thought it looked prone to falling off,
>>especially when trailering with the drive raised. I never thought about
>>whether there might be a spring to hold it in place - perhaps that's why I
>>haven't lost mine. I thought the gasket was visibly "split" (i.e. a gap
>>in
>>one location) though, which would correspond to not having a spring. but
>>perhaps I'm mis-remembering. I just looked at the parts list though:
>>
>>at epc.brp.com
>>sterndrive
>>1970
>>155
>>HUFM-19E-1970
>>
>>and 308768 is the "Exhast seal" and 308590 is the "Spring, seal" and
>>they're part 26 and 27, which correspond to what I remember. So it's
>>probably a two-piece gasket with a retaining spring... Ahh, it looks like
>>it's a rubber gasket with a split spring stretched over it - the spring is
>>probably a bent ring of spring steel that pinches the gasket into place,
>>rather than the long tension spring loop I was expecting.
>>
>>Here's a picture from when I had my outdrive separated:
>>
>> http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~brodskye/boat/parts/out_upper.jpg<http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/%7Ebrodskye/boat/parts/out_upper.jpg>
>>The seals is around the perimeter of the circular port in the front center
>>of the drive (with the vertical division going down the middle).
>>
>>> Also, one other question. PN 308596 Seal, is the big round plastic seal
>>> that the water pump housing slips through when placed in position inside
>>> the exhaust housing. It's a $38.00 part. Mine is present and in good
>>> condition. I'm not seeing any reason to replace it. Anyone got an
>>> opinion on that?
>>
>>
>>308596 is the "seal, exhuast housing", which I remember being a huge
>>gasket
>>that fits between the upper and lower unit (#38) - the drive rotates on
>>it.
>>Mine was pretty ratty, but I forgot to order a new one, and haven't had
>>any
>>issues there yet after five years. The upper and lower gear casings are
>>sealed separately, so I think the only consequence of having a bad seal
>>there would be leakage of exhaust out of the drive around the perimeter,
>>which shouldn't be a big deal. I wouldn't worry about it, especially if
>>yours looks good.
>>
>>Ethan
>>
>>
>>--
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>>href="http://www.engr.wisc.edu/~brodskye/<http://www.engr.wisc.edu/%7Ebrodskye/>">
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> From: Leo Matson <l_ematson72807@...>
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> HELLO THEIR; can someone direct me some refrence to a replacement spring
> for my out drive on my 69 sportsman 155 it's the forword spring i can get
> one thru evinrude for 344dollers but is their some were i can get one a
> littel cheaper 0r is their a way i can fix my old one the ear that hooks
> on the housing is broke of can i just heat this up and bend the ear on
> then quwench it in cool water to temper it again if that would work or
> replace the reverse spring for the forword one.thanks for any help or
> suggestions leo owner 1969 sportsman.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: omc-boats-request@...
>>Sent: Jun 10, 2009 12:34 PM
>>To: omc-boats@...
>>Subject: OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 26, Issue 23
>>
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>> 1. Re: Upper Unit Seal questions (BLDFW)
>> 2. Re: Upper Unit Seal questions (Lee Shuster)
>>
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 1
>>Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:58:20 -0700 (PDT)
>>From: BLDFW <bldfw@...>
>>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>>To: Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...>
>>Cc: omc-boats@...
>>Message-ID: <457939.28806.qm@...>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>>Ethan,
>>
>>How's that for sticker shock?!!
>>
>>Here's the list I came up with which is comprised of anything that
>>referenced "O-rings" or "Seals".? I'm not fully sure I need all these
>>parts, especially those marked with an "**".?
>>
>>Do those types of oil seals usually get replaced when resealing an
>>outdrive?
>>
>>-Bill
>>
>>
>>Ref Vendor PN???? Name???????????????????? OEM PN???? Price
>>4)? 18-7128??? -- O-Ring 18-7128?????????? (310590)?? 1.15??? 1.15
>>13) 310327???? -- O RING?????????????????? (310327)?? 1.80??? 3.60
>>16) 308622???? -- Vintage, O-RING????????? (308622)?? 2.73??? 2.73
>>17) 308588???? -- Vintage, GASKET????????? (308588)?? 6.53??? 6.53
>>26) 308768???? -- SEAL-GEAR HSG??????????? (308768)?? 7.70??? 7.70
>>27) 308590???? -- SPRING?????????????????? (308590)?? 5.25??? 5.25
>>32) 18-7121??? -- O-Ring 18-7121?????????? (308621)?? 1.28??? 1.28
>>38) 308592???? -- GASKET?????????????????? (308592)?? 1.47??? 2.94
>>46) 310611**?? -- Vintage, OIL SEAL??????? (310611)? 30.82?? 61.64
>>48) 310581**?? -- VINTAGE,SEAL-BEARING HSG (310581)? 50.00? 100.00
>>49) 310585???? -- O RING?????????????????? (310585)?? 1.61??? 1.61
>>50) 553126???? -- O RING?????????????????? (553126)?? 3.00??? 3.00
>>52) 18-7198-9? -- O-Ring 18-7198-9 (5/PKG) (308626)?? 5.34??? 5.34
>>60) 18-3108??? -- S.S. Steel Key 18-3108?? (308928)?? 6.38??? 6.38
>>61) 379475???? -- Impeller 777130????????? (379475)? 22.00?? 22.00
>>64) 18-2020??? -- Oil Seal 18-200????????? (310649)? 12.73?? 25.46
>>79) 9-76512??? -- SEAL RING GASKET 9-76512 (303059)?? 1.27??? 1.27
>>83) 379587**?? -- Vintage, RETAINER & SEAL (379587)? 72.00?? 72.00
>>All prices are in US Dollars
>>??????????????????????????????????????????? Subtotal??????? 329.88
>>??????????????????????????????????????????? Shipping????????? 0.00
>>??????????????????????????????????????????? TOTAL?????????? 329.88
>>(REF = reference number on the exploded diagrams)
>>
>>--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...> wrote:
>>
>>From: Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...>
>>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>>To: "BLDFW" <bldfw@...>
>>Cc: omc-boats@...
>>Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 9:56 AM
>>
>>On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, BLDFW wrote:
>>>Using the correct parts manual, I'm compiling a seals and o-ring listing
>>>so I can properly reseal my upper unit.? Fortunately all of
>>>the "seals and o-rings" are still available individually through
>>>MarineEngine.com so I'm about to place the order
>>
>>I'd be interested in seeing your list when you get all done - I noticed
>>some water in my upper unit oil last time I winterized and I'm planning on
>>tearing it apart this winter to replace whatever seal has gone bad.? A
>>list
>>of parts and vendors would certain help this process.
>>
>>> PN 308768 Exhaust Seal
>>> PN 308590 Spring? (related to the previous part)
>>> They appear to seal the exhaust outlet in the upper unit where it mates
>>> with the port on the intermediate housing.? I don't see anything that
>>> resembles these them on my upper unit (see pic).?? Is this a part that
>>> gets lost?? The inside of the upper unit cavity around the port is all
>>> black so it's not been there for awhile
>>
>>The "exhaust seal" is this large black rubber ring gasket that fits in the
>>outdrive, where it seals up against the intermediate housing.? The gasket
>>slips onto the outdrive side and seals around the outer edge.? I'm not
>>quite sure what the spring is, but perhaps it fits around the gasket and
>>pinches it in place?? I've always thought it looked prone to falling off,
>>especially when trailering with the drive raised.? I never thought about
>>whether there might be a spring to hold it in place - perhaps that's why I
>>haven't lost mine.? I thought the gasket was visibly "split" (i.e. a gap
>>in
>>one location)? though, which would correspond to not having a spring. but
>>perhaps I'm mis-remembering.? I just looked at the parts list though:
>>
>>at epc.brp.com
>>sterndrive
>>1970
>>155
>>HUFM-19E-1970
>>
>>and 308768 is the "Exhast seal" and 308590 is the "Spring, seal" and
>>they're part 26 and 27, which correspond to what I remember.? So it's
>>probably a two-piece gasket with a retaining spring... Ahh, it looks like
>>it's a rubber gasket with a split spring stretched over it - the spring is
>>probably a bent ring of spring steel that pinches the gasket into place,
>>rather than the long tension spring loop I was expecting.
>>
>>Here's a picture from when I had my outdrive separated:
>>? http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~brodskye/boat/parts/out_upper.jpg
>>The seals is around the perimeter of the circular port in the front center
>>of the drive (with the vertical division going down the middle).
>>
>>> Also, one other question.? PN 308596 Seal, is the big round plastic seal
>>> that the water pump housing slips through when placed in position inside
>>> the exhaust housing.? It's a $38.00 part.? Mine is present and in good
>>> condition.? I'm not seeing any reason to replace it.? Anyone got an
>>> opinion on that?
>>
>>
>>308596 is the "seal, exhuast housing", which I remember being a huge
>>gasket
>>that fits between the upper and lower unit (#38) - the drive rotates on
>>it.
>>Mine was pretty ratty, but I forgot to order a new one, and haven't had
>>any
>>issues there yet after five years.? The upper and lower gear casings are
>>sealed separately, so I think the only consequence of having a bad seal
>>there would be leakage of exhaust out of the drive around the perimeter,
>>which shouldn't be a big deal.? I wouldn't worry about it, especially if
>>yours looks good.
>>
>>Ethan
>>
>>
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>>Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:22:49 -0600
>>From: Lee Shuster <lee.k.shuster@...>
>>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>>To: "'Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's'"
>> <omc-boats@...>, Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...>
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>>Just a reminder:
>>
>>To anyone who already owns an OMC Sterndrive parts Manual: The BRP site
>>has an excellent online parts site that includes illustrations and
>>ORIGINAL part numbers.
>>
>>You would be surprised how many of these OMC parts are still available
>>thru their dealers.
>>
>>see:
>>http://12.2.215.22/pub/default.asp?SessionId=864c21840bbf468d8751887fc2abdf5d&Lang=EN&brands=EJ,ATV,SEADOO,SKIDOO,SPORTBOAT,LYNX,ROADSTER
>>
>>The parts directory on sterndrives goes back to the 1967-1/2 (16C-series)
>>which is where the "modern" era of the 5-bolt top cap electric shift
>>started.
>>
>>Lee
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>From: omc-boats-bounces@...
>>[mailto:omc-boats-bounces@...] On Behalf Of BLDFW
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:58 AM
>>To: Ethan Brodsky
>>Cc: omc-boats@...
>>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>>
>>Ethan,
>>
>>How's that for sticker shock?!!
>>
>>Here's the list I came up with which is comprised of anything that
>>referenced "O-rings" or "Seals". I'm not fully sure I need all these
>>parts, especially those marked with an "**".
>>
>>Do those types of oil seals usually get replaced when resealing an
>>outdrive?
>>
>>-Bill
>>
>>
>>Ref Vendor PN Name OEM PN Price
>>4) 18-7128 -- O-Ring 18-7128 (310590) 1.15 1.15
>>13) 310327 -- O RING (310327) 1.80 3.60
>>16) 308622 -- Vintage, O-RING (308622) 2.73 2.73
>>17) 308588 -- Vintage, GASKET (308588) 6.53 6.53
>>26) 308768 -- SEAL-GEAR HSG (308768) 7.70 7.70
>>27) 308590 -- SPRING (308590) 5.25 5.25
>>32) 18-7121 -- O-Ring 18-7121 (308621) 1.28 1.28
>>38) 308592 -- GASKET (308592) 1.47 2.94
>>46) 310611** -- Vintage, OIL SEAL (310611) 30.82 61.64
>>48) 310581** -- VINTAGE,SEAL-BEARING HSG (310581) 50.00 100.00
>>49) 310585 -- O RING (310585) 1.61 1.61
>>50) 553126 -- O RING (553126) 3.00 3.00
>>52) 18-7198-9 -- O-Ring 18-7198-9 (5/PKG) (308626) 5.34 5.34
>>60) 18-3108 -- S.S. Steel Key 18-3108 (308928) 6.38 6.38
>>61) 379475 -- Impeller 777130 (379475) 22.00 22.00
>>64) 18-2020 -- Oil Seal 18-200 (310649) 12.73 25.46
>>79) 9-76512 -- SEAL RING GASKET 9-76512 (303059) 1.27 1.27
>>83) 379587** -- Vintage, RETAINER & SEAL (379587) 72.00 72.00
>>All prices are in US Dollars
>> Subtotal 329.88
>> Shipping 0.00
>> TOTAL 329.88
>>(REF = reference number on the exploded diagrams)
>>
>>--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...> wrote:
>>
>>From: Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...>
>>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>>To: "BLDFW" <bldfw@...>
>>Cc: omc-boats@...
>>Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 9:56 AM
>>
>>On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, BLDFW wrote:
>>>Using the correct parts manual, I'm compiling a seals and o-ring listing
>>>so I can properly reseal my upper unit. Fortunately all of
>>>the "seals and o-rings" are still available individually through
>>>MarineEngine.com so I'm about to place the order
>>
>>I'd be interested in seeing your list when you get all done - I noticed
>>some water in my upper unit oil last time I winterized and I'm planning on
>>tearing it apart this winter to replace whatever seal has gone bad. A
>>list
>>of parts and vendors would certain help this process.
>>
>>> PN 308768 Exhaust Seal
>>> PN 308590 Spring (related to the previous part)
>>> They appear to seal the exhaust outlet in the upper unit where it mates
>>> with the port on the intermediate housing. I don't see anything that
>>> resembles these them on my upper unit (see pic). Is this a part that
>>> gets lost? The inside of the upper unit cavity around the port is all
>>> black so it's not been there for awhile
>>
>>The "exhaust seal" is this large black rubber ring gasket that fits in the
>>outdrive, where it seals up against the intermediate housing. The gasket
>>slips onto the outdrive side and seals around the outer edge. I'm not
>>quite sure what the spring is, but perhaps it fits around the gasket and
>>pinches it in place? I've always thought it looked prone to falling off,
>>especially when trailering with the drive raised. I never thought about
>>whether there might be a spring to hold it in place - perhaps that's why I
>>haven't lost mine. I thought the gasket was visibly "split" (i.e. a gap
>>in
>>one location) though, which would correspond to not having a spring. but
>>perhaps I'm mis-remembering. I just looked at the parts list though:
>>
>>at epc.brp.com
>>sterndrive
>>1970
>>155
>>HUFM-19E-1970
>>
>>and 308768 is the "Exhast seal" and 308590 is the "Spring, seal" and
>>they're part 26 and 27, which correspond to what I remember. So it's
>>probably a two-piece gasket with a retaining spring... Ahh, it looks like
>>it's a rubber gasket with a split spring stretched over it - the spring is
>>probably a bent ring of spring steel that pinches the gasket into place,
>>rather than the long tension spring loop I was expecting.
>>
>>Here's a picture from when I had my outdrive separated:
>>
>> http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~brodskye/boat/parts/out_upper.jpg<http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/%7Ebrodskye/boat/parts/out_upper.jpg>
>>The seals is around the perimeter of the circular port in the front center
>>of the drive (with the vertical division going down the middle).
>>
>>> Also, one other question. PN 308596 Seal, is the big round plastic seal
>>> that the water pump housing slips through when placed in position inside
>>> the exhaust housing. It's a $38.00 part. Mine is present and in good
>>> condition. I'm not seeing any reason to replace it. Anyone got an
>>> opinion on that?
>>
>>
>>308596 is the "seal, exhuast housing", which I remember being a huge
>>gasket
>>that fits between the upper and lower unit (#38) - the drive rotates on
>>it.
>>Mine was pretty ratty, but I forgot to order a new one, and haven't had
>>any
>>issues there yet after five years. The upper and lower gear casings are
>>sealed separately, so I think the only consequence of having a bad seal
>>there would be leakage of exhaust out of the drive around the perimeter,
>>which shouldn't be a big deal. I wouldn't worry about it, especially if
>>yours looks good.
>>
>>Ethan
>>
>>
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