Re: [OMC-Boats] Exhaust hose question

From: ANDY PERAKES <aperakes@...>
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:05:15 -0400 (EDT)

I know it can be a headache tracking down the right parts, but you can't put a price on safety.  I've been on the clean-up side of "good ideas at the time" and they aren't very pretty.  Rodney Dan gerfield may have been famous for saying he got no respect, but I think lowly items like fasteners and hoses have him beat.  Several years back I had the radius arm bushings on my truck replaced and the dealership mechanic mechanic decided to use "substitue" fasteners since he didn't have the specificed bolts in stock.  Fourtunately he also left my fuel filter dangling against the driveshaft  so when I stopped to investigate the noise I also noticed my front end about to fall off.  Imagine how that could have turned out had he been thoughtful enough to re-install the fuel filter and I had instead lost my front axle at on the freeway at 70 mph, probably in a turn since that's when the loads and severity would be  highest .  A ll thanks to a guy trying to chince on a lousy $2 bolt .  I also saw a guy lose a trailer axle because "the Chinese U-bolts were 1/2 the price."  Sorry for soap boxing, but I'm sure that guy didn't factor in the cost of  who his  axle might hit as he calculated his  savings.  And a s you say, the problems can be even worse on an unfamiliar body of water.

----- Original Message -----
From: "BLDFW" <bldfw@...>
To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's" <omc-boats@...mate.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:48:08 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Exhaust hose question

Well, I ordered new hoses from Wholesale Marine (HOSE Johnson - Evinrude - OMC 0312771).  They offered the least expensive OEM part at $37.50 each plus shipping.  The BRP site wanted $45.00 each.  Jeesh!!  

Their website showed two in stock so I ordered both as there was no sense in replacing just the one and leaving the other with an aftermarket.  Then I get a call late yesterday advising they only had one in stock and what did I want to do?  Just means they'll cost more by the time I'm done.  I had them split the order and send me the one now and the other whenever.

Maybe with some luck I will get the boat in the water this weekend.....which I totally wasn't expecting to be Memorial day weekend.  I've been off a week all month and was thinking it was next weekend.  Sorta messes with my plans.  I was hoping to get the shakedown out of the way so I could trailer the boat down to Austin for the Mem Day weekend but not going to do that until I get all the bugs worked out.  Would be a bit ackward to have a problem on a lake I'm not familiar with

I'll be going to going to Wally World today to get a big storage type tub to drop the outdrive into so I can run it at home rather than hauling it to the lake.  I can check the water flow and see how well she runs.  I'm doing what I can to avoid having friends strumming their fingers on the deck while I'm trying to figure why it aint workin!....not mention having my buddy Jon there with his boat to haul me in (as he's had to do a time or two in the past with my Bayliner.) 

 ;-) 

-Bill
Dallas, TX
1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 Buick V6 OMC Sterndrive
http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer

--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Lee Shuster <lee.k.shuster@...> wrote:

From: Lee Shuster <lee.k.shuster@...>
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Exhaust hose question
To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's" <omc-boats@...mate.com>
Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 8:44 PM

I didn't want to be seen as a SOAP-BOXER but Andy nailed this one. Get the
OMC molded connectors.
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From: omc-boats-bounces@...
[omc-boats-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Andy Perakes
[aperakes@...]
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 6:57 PM
To: Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Exhaust hose question

These are pre-formed hoses and it will be a lot easier if you can find some NOS
or equivalent. I didn't have much difficulty finding them <2 years ago
so I'd think you could still find them with a little effort. Its always
better to use the part meant for the application rather than a substitute that
may not have the same temperature rating, chemical compatibility, structure,
durability, etc. The wire (or fabric) ribbings can serve multiple purposes,
depending on the application. For exhaust or coolant water outlets, not only
shape retention, but also resistance to bursting; for water inlets, they prevent
the hoses from collapsing from the suction. Cutting corners can lead to very
unpleasant results, that's why we go to such efforts to grade and rate
materials and parts. If an application specifies a bolt grade, min. operating
temperature, burst rating, spark/flame resistance, etc., you could be risking
great bodily harm not to adhere to it.

----- Original Message -----
From: BLDFW<mailto:bldfw@...>
To: Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and
70's<mailto:omc-boats@...>
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Exhaust hose question

Using the wire version would make sense as the non-wire version on there did
indeed have a crimp in it that reduced the diamater to about half. Not sure why
the port side had to be redone but it would appear that while they tried, it
wasn't fully successful. The starboard side appears to be original or at
least older than the port side and not of the same manufacturer.

I used the same leverage logic and undid the 90' elbow, attached the hose
to both the elbow and the outdrive housing but it didn't work. Still about
1" too short. It sounds like I may have to use the wire version anyway and
use your suggestion to unbolt the entire manifold and use that as leverage to
get it to bend. I should do the starboard side to but I'm leaning towards
that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" saying.

-Bill

--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Kenneth Gullicksen <kag@...> wrote:
From: Kenneth Gullicksen <kag@...>
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Exhaust hose question
To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
<omc-boats@...>
Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:41 PM

  I am willing to stand corrected but I believe the wire is to help the hose
hold its shape, i.e. not crimp thereby blocking the passage when bent.
  One trick I have used in bending is to put it on the manifold (or whatever)
when the manifold is off the engine (i.e. attach both ends). Then reinstall the
manifold on the engine. It gives you more leverage and means you don't have
to get a bent end on, which can be difficult. Of course I was putting on new
manifolds at the time. If I had to take them off just to put on the hose I
might feel differently. (I was also dealing with short lengths of four inch
hose, which are very difficult to bend the 90 degrees I needed.)

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From: omc-boats-bounces@...
[mailto:omc-boats-bounces@...] On Behalf Of BLDFW
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 4:57 PM
To: OMC Boats
Subject: [OMC-Boats] Exhaust hose question

Ok guys. Need some feedback....

Anyone recently replace their exhaust hose on their V6? The hose that was on
mine has proven to be too short. I went to West Marine and was advised it was
the non-wire type and that they could order it but it would be a week. When
questioned about an alternative source they sent me to another marine shop but
they didn't carry that particular size. My buddy Jon mentioned a local hose
dealer so I called them. They have the wire version on hand but not the
non-wire.

I might be under the misimpression that I can't use the wired version as it
will be too stiff to bend the 60degrees or so to meet up to the manifold. What
have you guys used when replacing your hoses??

Thanks

-Bill
Dallas, TX
1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 Buick V6 OMC Sterndrive
http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer

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