Lee, Thanks for your reply-I did it with the motor in but you have to pull
the stern drive off. The year is 1969 and it is a 210 V8 Rogue. You are
right about the change in design in the early 70's. The whole intermediate
shaft with ball gear and bearings lifts out fairly easy if not frozen in the
housing. The bearings are not the tapered later type. They are a large ball
bearing and a larger roller bearing with the roller bearing having the
inner pressed on race. The ball gears are like new as they were replaced
about 4 years ago by a mechanic and I haven't done much boating (
read -spending all his time fixing an old boat ) since. The splines were in
good shape and there is a small "o" ring on the splines to prevent the water
rust scenario.It is all coming together now and we should be more active. It
is not leaking when I checked yesterday. I am dewinterizing this weekend and
should be ready soon. The weather is turning nice so it won't be long. I
also bought a new set of ball gears from Sea Way and the intermediate ball
gear is attached to the shaft and comes as an assembly. I will have them
ready down the road when needed. Have a good weekend. TK
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> [omc-boats] ball gear int. housing
> Re: [omc-boats] ball gear int. housing
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> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:57:22 -0500
> From: "Thomas Klauber" <tklauber@...>
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> I finally did it. I could not stand the small oil drip at the ball gear =
> at the intermediate housing so I replaced the seal in the bearing =
> retainer. You pull the ball gear and shaft from the intermediate housing =
> and there is a small clip which you remove which allows you to remove 2 =
> bearings from the shaft. You have a bearing inner race pressed on the =
> shaft that you have to remove prior to removing the bearing retainer. I =
> have a press and a press tool to remove the race which I did and it came =
> off easily. I slipped the bearing retainer off and replaced the seal. I =
> think the leak was from the seal. The rubber part of the seal looked =
> warped like it had been soaked in solvent and I speculate that the =
> previous mechanic that installed the replacement ball gear soaked the =
> parts in solvent prior to reassembly and didn't notice the bad seal - =
> anyway the seal presses out easily and the new one went in nicely. Put =
> the retainer back on the shaft and install the outer bearing race then =
> the 2 bearings and clip and you are done. Time will tell if I am =
> correct. Just thought I would pass this on. TK
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I finally did it. I could not stand the =
> small oil=20
> drip at the ball gear at the intermediate housing so I replaced the seal =
> in the=20
> bearing retainer. You pull the ball gear and shaft from the intermediate =
> housing=20
> and there is a small clip which you remove which allows you to remove 2 =
> bearings=20
> from the shaft. You have a bearing inner race pressed on the shaft that =
> you have=20
> to remove prior to removing the bearing retainer. I have a press and a =
> press=20
> tool to remove the race which I did and it came off easily. I slipped =
> the=20
> bearing retainer off and replaced the seal. I think the leak was from =
> the seal.=20
> The rubber part of the seal looked warped like it had been soaked in =
> solvent and=20
> I speculate that the previous mechanic that installed the replacement =
> ball gear=20
> soaked the parts in solvent prior to reassembly and didn't notice the =
> bad seal -=20
> anyway the seal presses out easily and the new one went in nicely. Put =
> the=20
> retainer back on the shaft and install the outer bearing race then the 2 =
>
> bearings and clip and you are done. Time will tell if I am correct. Just =
> thought=20
> I would pass this on. TK</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 06:47:31 -0700
> From: <lib1@...>
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] ball gear int. housing
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> Hi Tom,
>
> Great job, Tom! What year was this intermediate housing? I think in the =
> early seventies OMC changed the shaft bearing over to a tapered roller =
> bearing design. I've heard one major weakness is moisture getting inside =
> the housing and rust causing the shaft splines to weaken. When that =
> happens you get "instant neutral." That when you hope there's a friendly =
> boater nearby to tow you back in. So did you bite the bullet and do an =
> engine pull or were you able to do it with everything in place? (So =
> how's dumb I am!)
>
> How's the wear on the ball gears looking?=20
>
> Lee
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Thomas Klauber=20
> To: omc-boats@...=20
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:57 PM
> Subject: [omc-boats] ball gear int. housing
>
>
> I finally did it. I could not stand the small oil drip at the ball =
> gear at the intermediate housing so I replaced the seal in the bearing =
> retainer. You pull the ball gear and shaft from the intermediate housing =
> and there is a small clip which you remove which allows you to remove 2 =
> bearings from the shaft. You have a bearing inner race pressed on the =
> shaft that you have to remove prior to removing the bearing retainer. I =
> have a press and a press tool to remove the race which I did and it came =
> off easily. I slipped the bearing retainer off and replaced the seal. I =
> think the leak was from the seal. The rubber part of the seal looked =
> warped like it had been soaked in solvent and I speculate that the =
> previous mechanic that installed the replacement ball gear soaked the =
> parts in solvent prior to reassembly and didn't notice the bad seal - =
> anyway the seal presses out easily and the new one went in nicely. Put =
> the retainer back on the shaft and install the outer bearing race then =
> the 2 bearings and clip and you are done. Time will tell if I am =
> correct. Just thought I would pass this on. TK
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Tom,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Great job, Tom! What year was =
> this=20
> intermediate housing? I think in the early seventies OMC changed the =
> shaft=20
> bearing over to a tapered roller bearing design. I've heard one major =
> weakness=20
> is moisture getting inside the housing and rust causing the shaft =
> splines to=20
> weaken. When that happens you get "instant neutral." That when you hope =
> there's=20
> a friendly boater nearby to tow you back in. So did you bite the bullet =
> and do=20
> an engine pull or were you able to do it with everything in place? =
> (So=20
> how's dumb I am!)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How's the wear on the ball gears =
> looking?=20
> </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lee</FONT></DIV>
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> Klauber</A> </DIV>
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> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 11, 2005 =
> 8:57=20
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [omc-boats] ball gear =
> int.=20
> housing</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I finally did it. I could not stand =
> the small oil=20
> drip at the ball gear at the intermediate housing so I replaced the =
> seal in=20
> the bearing retainer. You pull the ball gear and shaft from the =
> intermediate=20
> housing and there is a small clip which you remove which allows you to =
> remove=20
> 2 bearings from the shaft. You have a bearing inner race pressed on =
> the shaft=20
> that you have to remove prior to removing the bearing retainer. I have =
> a press=20
> and a press tool to remove the race which I did and it came off =
> easily. I=20
> slipped the bearing retainer off and replaced the seal. I think the =
> leak was=20
> from the seal. The rubber part of the seal looked warped like it had =
> been=20
> soaked in solvent and I speculate that the previous mechanic that =
> installed=20
> the replacement ball gear soaked the parts in solvent prior to =
> reassembly and=20
> didn't notice the bad seal - anyway the seal presses out easily and =
> the new=20
> one went in nicely. Put the retainer back on the shaft and install the =
> outer=20
> bearing race then the 2 bearings and clip and you are done. Time will =
> tell if=20
> I am correct. Just thought I would pass this on.=20
> TK</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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