Re: [OMC-Boats] OMC-Boats Digest, updating engine and outdrive

From: Rick Heine <rheine@...>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 12:35:24 -0500

It will require some transom and engine mount work but yes, you can add a
newer engine in there. I know where there are outdrives and a whole new
rebuilt engine. We have a place in Kansas City that works on these vintage
motors. I have a Rouge with a Chev 260hp.

Rick

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   1. updating engine and outdrive? (sv)
   2. updating engine and outdrive? (Jeff Dood)

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Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 21:02:07 -0700
From: sv <svsv8002@...>
To: "1960's and 70's & Johnson Boats Evinrude the
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Subject: [OMC-Boats] updating engine and outdrive?
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 My beloved ?65 Johnson Deluxe got beat to hell last season. On top of some
major hull dings from a treacherous marina, I hit something at the end of
the season and knocked out the lower unit.

In my region there's literally about 1 guy I know of who can or is willing
to work on such an old OMC stringer. The lower unit has to be replaced -
can?t be ?rebuilt? he says. Being vintage, that to me equates to
waiting for something used yet decent to come up somewhere in the country on
Ebay or Craigslist. And how will I know it will be ?decent? until I pay
big bucks, ship it to me, and try it out.

I?ve put a ton of time and money into the rest of this boat. I?ve
completely re-done nearly everything. Re-wired, dash, seats, paint,
everything. The engine has been one big headache. Over maybe 7 years
of ownership and toiling away, I?ve had about 1.5 good seasons of not
having some engine issue to chase down and spend money on. It?s pretty
good now, but still was having random crazy things happening last season.
I?m kind of sick of it.

I love the boat. But mainly for it?s cool look. It?s not a restore and
never will be. I could honestly care less about keeping the engine and
stringer original.

So my question is this. Is it even possible to completely ?update? the
engine and outdrive in a Johnson Deluxe? In other words, i?m picturing
some sort of retrofit of a ?crate? motor and maybe a mercruiser outdrive or
something? In other words something ?new? that I know would start right
up every year, not overheat, wouldn?t have a carb, etc etc. I would
not be attempting to do it myself, I?d have to hire some place. Before I
even ask around to boat places who will likely barely be familiar with a
Johnson Deluxe, among the experts here - Is this even possible?

Or is that something that would require major hull modifications - I?m
thinking particularly at the transom hole and boot situation. And would I
be swapping my engine reliability problems for transom leaking problems?

thanks for any input. Maybe I?ll get lucky and someone on this list has
actually done this already.

 I know I could maybe locate a lower unit and solve the outdrive problem.
But again, I could do all that and have a season of engine problems anyway.
I?m just kind of over it all.

Thanks! Jeff

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 21:10:08 -0700
From: Jeff Dood <doodja100@...>
To: omc-boats@...
Subject: [OMC-Boats] updating engine and outdrive?
Message-ID: <DECBB382-AF94-4906-BE0F-D6B0F3460595@...>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

 My beloved ?65 Johnson Deluxe got beat to hell last season. On top of some
major hull dings from a treacherous marina, I hit something at the end of
the season and knocked out the lower unit.

In my region there's literally about 1 guy I know of who can or is willing
to work on such an old OMC stringer. The lower unit has to be replaced -
can?t be ?rebuilt? he says. Being vintage, that to me equates to
waiting for something used yet decent to come up somewhere in the country on
Ebay or Craigslist. And how will I know it will be ?decent? until I pay
big bucks, ship it to me, and try it out.

I?ve put a ton of time and money into the rest of this boat. I?ve
completely re-done nearly everything. Re-wired, dash, seats, paint,
everything. The engine has been one big headache. Over maybe 7 years
of ownership and toiling away, I?ve had about 1.5 good seasons of not
having some engine issue to chase down and spend money on. It?s pretty
good now, but still was having random crazy things happening last season.
I?m kind of sick of it.

I love the boat. But mainly for it?s cool look. It?s not a restore and
never will be. I could honestly care less about keeping the engine and
stringer original.

So my question is this. Is it even possible to completely ?update? the
engine and outdrive in a Johnson Deluxe? In other words, i?m picturing
some sort of retrofit of a ?crate? motor and maybe a mercruiser outdrive or
something? In other words something ?new? that I know would start right
up every year, not overheat, wouldn?t have a carb, etc etc. I would
not be attempting to do it myself, I?d have to hire some place. Before I
even ask around to boat places who will likely barely be familiar with a
Johnson Deluxe, among the experts here - Is this even possible?

Or is that something that would require major hull modifications - I?m
thinking particularly at the transom hole and boot situation. And would I
be swapping my engine reliability problems for transom leaking problems?

thanks for any input. Maybe I?ll get lucky and someone on this list has
actually done this already.

 I know I could maybe locate a lower unit and solve the outdrive problem.
But again, I could do all that and have a season of engine problems anyway.
I?m just kind of over it all.

Thanks! Jeff

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