Just a tip I got from and farmer/machinist years ago...
As long as you're drilling to remove a bolt, whether to use an EZ Out or
drilling out the whole bolt to re-tap it - Go to the hardware store and
get a couple of left twist drill bits. Start small and work up just like
you would normally. The great advantage is that most of the time I have
done this the bolt backs out with the drill before you are done. The
heat generated by drilling, and constant rotational force in the proper
direction is more often than not enough to spin the bolt out. Now if
it's corroded in real bad, which may be the case here, it may not work,
but as long as you're drilling on it, it's worth a shot. It has worked
for me several times.
Don
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From: omc-boats-bounces@...
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Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:27 PM
To: Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Prop spinning in Nuetral?
Be very careful using EZ Out's. If you do not have a quality set of EZ
out tools, I would recommend drilling it out. I broke a small bolt of
and was able to drill a hole right in the center but then the crappy ez
out broke in the hole and that metal is a lot harder than the original
screw.
-Bill
Dallas, TX
1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 Buick V6 - OMC Sterndrive
http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer
--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...> wrote:
From: Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...>
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Prop spinning in Nuetral?
To: bchowk@..., "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and
70's" <omc-boats@...>
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:25 PM
B.C.,
Just getting a bit frustrated. The bolt head broke off so the rest of
the bolt is stuck in the quadrant. I'm going to see if I can get my
hands on an ez out or just drill it myself. I had the pleasure of
removing a bolt from the engine of my old car when changing a valve
cover gasket.
I will definitely be applying anti-seize before putting new bolts in.
- Nexi
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From: BC Howk <bchowk@...>
To: omc-boats@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:21:09 PM
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Prop spinning in Nuetral?
Nexi,
Welcome....we've all been there. Once you get it sorted out they are
worth it!!
I have actually been running mine with 2 bolts on the quadrant gear for
years now, in my case one of the bolt holes broke. If its just a broken
bolt head you could try an easy out or just tow it to a machinist have
them drill it out and retap shouldn't cost but a few bucks I think.
on the up side, you should be able to take the quadrant gear off now
right? So you can drop the outdrive, run the motor and tune it up? Not
sure, how your inspection is going but it sounds like you are running
into pretty standard stuff for one of these old boats that has been
sitting a while, battery, tilt issues (if you fix it right and maintain
it will work trouble free for years ), old oil. the fact that it started
up is pretty encouraging.
Your just on a learning curve, you'll have it sorted and enjoying it in
no time. stay positive.
Cheers,
B.C.
On Aug 11, 2009, Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...> wrote:
B.C.,
Tried some penetrating oil before doing anything. Neighbor said
the torch would probably melt the aluminum so I didn't use it. Broke 1
of the bolts, got the other 2 out. I'm thinking an EZ-Out should work to
remove the rest of the bolt? So far I'm having some really bad luck with
a boat that was supposed to need nothing more than a solenoid. Arghhhh.
Nexi
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From: BC Howk <bchowk@...>
To: omc-boats@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:18:14 PM
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Prop spinning in Nuetral?
Nexi,
Have you tried penetrating oil, impact wrench? A little heat and
a breaker bar should work, would just hate to see you break the bolts or
something.
Just another thought, since you need to fix the tilt motor
anyway, go ahead and take the motor out and you should be able to spin
the outdrive down by hand, via the worm gear shaft, will take a little
while but.....
As far as the water goes, glad to hear you have the hose hooked
up. As long as you have you tell tale "pee stream" should be alright.
Sorry I don't know what else to call it... looks like the outdrive is
peeing out of a little hole toward the top of the outdrive on the
starboard side. Again, IMHO you should make sure the outdrive is down
all the way before running it.
Good luck with those bolts.
B.C.
On Aug 11, 2009, Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...> wrote:
Having a real difficult time getting the 3 bolts off the
quadrant gear. Perhaps a torch and a breaker bar will do the trick?
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From: BC Howk <bchowk@...>
To: omc-boats@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:32:09 PM
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Prop spinning in Nuetral?
Nexi,
That's pretty normal, mine spins in neutral, just sorta
idling along. You should be able to stop it with a finger be really
sure it's not engaged first...
I would not run it with the engine up though. bad for
ball gears and not real sure the impelor is gonna like that. I have
heard some different opinions but never risk it myself just take off the
quadrant gear and lower the outdrive by hand....till you can get the
tilt motor sorted out.
Cheers,
B.C.
On Aug 11, 2009, Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...> wrote:
Took a next step to make sure the engine runs.
Started her up with the drive up, someone said this was ok as long as
the boat is in nuetral. Oddly enough the prop is spinning while in
neutral. Shouldn't the prop be at a stand still during neutral?
Boat: 1967 Sportsman 120
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