Re: [OMC-Boats] Johnson/OMC 17' DELUXE Weight? from Kim Foster on 2009-03-27 (OMC-Boats Mailing List Archive)

From: Kim Foster <snagf@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:20:36 -0700

Lee- Thanks a lot... Wanted to make sure I wasn't packing a lot of water before I started the restoration... I weighed out at about 2700 lbs including trailer so I should be good!

Jake

From: lib1@...
To: omc-boats@...
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:18:50 -0600
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Johnson/OMC 17' DELUXE Weight?

More on weight sources:

The original OMC online published brochures are available at:
http://www.ultimate.com/omc-boats/gallery/lit.html

I also have collected and published OMC Stringer I/O powertrain weights (sourced from OMC documentation) at:
http://hhscott.com/evinrude/omc_stringer.htm
(Scroll down to the bottom, also listed are the weights for my lighter 1966 16' Sport/Sportsman hull)

So I'm revising my original estamtes slightly as follows for your 1964 Deluxe 17 hull:

The 225 was new in 1964 and the weights are only given for the V-4 DeLuxe that year @... 1640 lbs.

The 120 I-4 Deluxe would add roughly (est.) 250 # more @... 1890 lbs (over the base V-4)

The Dual V-4' Deluxe were listed in 1964 at 1800 lbs but my est say it should be closer to 1880 lbs (based on the weights of the second powertrain.)

The 225 V-6 Deluxe would add roughly (est.) 360 # more at 2000 lbs. (Again, over the base V-4)

So, +/- 2.5 percent error your boat should between 1950 to 2150 lbs empty and "dry."

Lee

----- Original Message -----
From: lib1@...
To: Kim Foster ; Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Johnson/OMC 17' DELUXE Weight?

Kim,

You can get a good idea by looking at the published brochure weights on Phil's web site.

The 225 was new in 1964 and the weights are only given for the V-4 DeLuxe that year @... 1640 lbs.
The 120 I-4 Deluxe would add roughly (est.) 100 # more @... 1740 lbs
The Dual V-4' Deluxe were listed in 1964 at 1800 lbs (The hot ticket!)

The 225 V-6 Deluxe would add roughly (est.) 100 # more at 1850 lbs.

The 1965 and 1966 models all gained some weight due to improvements. The 1966 Deluxe V6 is listed at 2100 lbs.

Assuming you get ALL the safety gear, and fuel out of your boat, and "dry" weight of around 1900 - 2000 lbs would be acceptable.

I didn't double check the PUBLISHED trailer weight (with and without brakes) but figure about 650 - 700 lbs.

Another way to cross-check hull weight is run some verified speed checks against a GPS. Use this webpage to verify performance:
http://hhscott.com/evinrude/docs/BSLAC.htm

Your (empty) boat should be able to achieve around 37 - 38 mph at sea level, with 1 person aboard, assuming a correctly pitched prop, properly tuned engine, clean hull and ideal conditions.

So the long answer to your questions isn't easy: But 2550 to 2700 lbs on the scales for empty boat and trailer is close. If you see 3000 # or more you've got water under the floo or perhapsa bunch of gear or stow-aways on your craft. If you can get her up to 36 - 37 (verified) mph at sea level, I wouldn't be too concerned.

Lee Shuster
Salt Lake City

----- Original Message -----
From: Kim Foster
To: omc-boats@...
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:02 AM
Subject: [OMC-Boats] Johnson/OMC 17' DELUXE Weight?

Does anyone have the specs on weight for the 1964 Johnson/OMC Deluxe 17 foot? Mine has the 225 Buick V-6 I/O... I want to weigh it out to make sure I'm not carrying any extra water...

Thanks,
Jake

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Received on Friday, 27 March 2009