[OMC-Boats] Lower Unit Rebuild

From: BLDFW <bldfw@...>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:27:30 -0700 (PDT)

Hey Andy,

I had a classic car one time that needed a valve job so I took it to a car club mechanic byddy.  He charged over $800 to do it.  I visited his shop one afternoon and discovered all he did was to pull the heads and send them to someone else to the valve work.  Well heck, buddy or no buddy, I could have saved $600-700 by doing that work myself, so the next two valve jobs I did the same way saving a bunch of money. 

I'll admit up front to having a certain disdain for greasy grungy mechanical work and would really prefer someone else to do it....but not enough to shell out hundreds or thousands when I KNOW I can do the work myself.  So....with a deep breath and gritted teeth.... I get my hands dirty. 

I found on my last (and first) boat that marine work is terribly expensive to farm out soooooo.......this time, after obtaining the applicable service manual and the oh-so indispensible parts manual and studying both, I resealed my sterndrive myself.  It wasn't difficult and I easily saved myself probably $1200-1400 or more in the process. 

I was going to check the lower unit as well but since there wasn't any obvious reason to do so, I decided not to venture into it except for the seal on the outer cap behind the prop.  It was a good experience as now I "know" first hand what condition the drive is in should anything come up down the line.  Those of us that choose to do the work ourselves could sure benefit from hearing your experiences with it.  

Maybe you can chronicalizer you venture in diary form with pics?? 

-Bill
Dallas, TX
1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 Buick V6 - OMC Sterndrive
http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Andy Perakes <aperakes@...> wrote:

From: Andy Perakes <aperakes@...>
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Forward Clutch Won't Engage on Late-1967 3-wire Shifter - Update
To: "'Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's'" <omc-boats@...timate.com>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 11:17 PM

Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:16 AM
To: Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Forward Clutch Won't Engage on Late-1967 3-wire Shifter - Update

From: "Lee Shuster (lib1)" <lib1@...>
To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's" <omc-boats@....ultimate.com>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:58:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Forward Clutch Won't Engage on Late-1967 3-wire Shifter - Update

First check the forward and reverse coils (one at a time with an  
ohmeter, out of circuit.)

A good coil will read between 4.5 and 6.5 ohms.

Most likely the electrical coil is okay but the spring tab has broken  
off.

I wouldn't recommend fuse-protecting the coils, but you can calculate  
the current flow in amps using Ohm's law. I generally see 2 to 3 amps  
current draw on my digital ohmeter, when shifting with the motor not  
running and battery at approximately 12.3 volts.

Lee

On Aug 16, 2009, at 10:46 PM, jd wrote:

> yikes.   this strikes fear in the hearts of .......me.
>
> both the up and down wires are pretty accessible before they get to  
> the outdrive stuff.
>
> a) any technical reason why a person couldn't put an inline fuse on  
> both those wires just for situations like this?   It would be pretty  
> easy to do.
>
> b)  any technical reason why OMC didn't back in the day?
>
>
> (there i go again,  wanting to put fuses on everything)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 16, 2009, at 7:54 PM, ANDY PERAKES wrote:
>
>> Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.  I was a bit surprised there  
>> was no fuse -- at least not one outside the stern drive (I guess  
>> there could be one inside, but it doesn't show on the schematics  
>> and doesn't seem a likely place to put one).  What I didn't get to  
>> do was test the resistance of the coils so I guess that's next, but  
>> barring any big surprises from the group, it looks like I'll be  
>> taking my first foray into the lower unit.  It still seems odd to  
>> me that the coil would go so quickly like that, but I guess it's  
>> possible.  There's no sound like something chunking around or loose  
>> when I turn the prop by hand or run in reverse.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Don Mandelas" <dmandelas@...>
>> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's" <omc-boats@...
>> >
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:20:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Forward Clutch Won't Engage on Late-1967 3-
>> wire Shifter - Update
>>
>> Since you have power all the way back then I guess its not a fuse  
>> which would protect the forward coil.
>>
>> Don
>> 1697 Sportsman 155
>>
>>
>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:17:09 -0400
>> From: aperakes@...
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Forward Clutch Won't Engage on Late-1967 3-
>> wire Shifter - Update
>>
>> I was able to trace power all the way back to the stern drive so  
>> its not the shifter switch or another break in electrical power.  
>> At this point it doesn't appear to be something I can repair in the  
>> water so we're starting to paddle.  Obviously a fried coil is one  
>> possibility; can anyone name any other high-probablility  
>> possibilities?  Thanks!
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "ANDY PERAKES" <aperakes@...>
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:15:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: [OMC-Boats] Forward Clutch Won't Engage on Late-1967 3-
>> wire Shifter
>>
>>
>> So once again I made the mistake of trusting someone else to ensure  
>> the ski
>> line was clear of the drive and once again got a harness cable  
>> wrapped
>> around the drive.  Only a small ding in the prop and a slight bend  
>> in the
>> shear pin (for which I had a spare and easily changed), but now my  
>> forward
>> clutch won't engage (reverse work's fine).  I have the late-1967 3-
>> wire
>> set-up out of the shifter, but unfortunately I can't see any more  
>> than that
>> given the conditions.  (I should add I'm on the water so I don't  
>> not have
>> access to any manuals, limited tools, and its a bit too rocky to be  
>> poking
>> around very much.)  If anyone happens to see this and has any  
>> thoughts I can
>> try before giving up and paddling back in, I'd sure appreciate it.  
>> Even
>> though I have a 3-wire, I've already tried Lee's 5-wire trick of  
>> shutting
>> down in neutral and backing in reverse; didn't work.  Thanks!
>>
>> Andy
>> 1967 Reveler
>>
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