Re: [OMC-Boats] adjust screw on top of shifter?

From: Lee Shuster (lib1) <lib1@...>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:06:28 -0600

Yup, I didn't realize it tell I read it with my own eyes. It's just
another example of why it pays to RTFM. I cross-referenced and the
Seloc manual mentions it as well, but in a slightly more confusing
manor than the factory OMC manual.
And OBTW, the 1969 OMC/Evinrude/Johnson manual doesn't mention the 5-
wire units. But 1970 and newer does.

Remember this applies to only the 5-wire Johnson & OMC controls. E-
rude PUSH-BUTTON owners can ignore. Your "LOCK-OUT" failure typically
allows you to start the engine, you just can't shift. (Covered in a
prior posting.)

My ski lessons got rained out today at Jordanelle Reservoir, near Park
City. 46 F and 3-ft white caps at 08:15 AM. Never got of the trailer.
Oh, well.

Lee

On Aug 15, 2009, at 12:04 PM, jd wrote:

> oh jeez. ok this is weird.
>
> -I've looked at that screw and associated parts in both the
> housings i have and it just seems to be connected to nothing.
> Hard to understand conceptually how the things does ANYTHING, but i
> believe you.
>
> - unless im missing something, this particular adjustment doesn't
> make a whole lot of sense. i'm confused. When would you ever need
> an adjustment that controls hot/cold starts and the position of the
> "gas" lever? That seems like putting an adjustment on a cars gas
> peddle to control whether or not you give it gas when you start
> it. Why?
>
> - now i am wondering if i really screwed things up and perhaps
> played around with that screw and that's what caused that plastic
> disk piece in the switch to break? I easily could have, but don't
> remember at what point i actually started messing with the screw.
> All i know is it was sort of behaving wierd. Sometimes cranking,
> sometimes not. And moving the red lever may have made a
> difference in there somewhere cause i'm sure out there on the water
> i was in a slight panic moving stuff back and forth. But I DIDN'T
> mess with the screw out on the water. Then at some point got it
> to crank again. Perhaps the red lever position? Then back at dock
> assumed i had some electrical thing happening with the switch. I
> think that's probably the point where I fiddled with the screw -
> mainly out of curiousity (as in "hmmm what's this do?")- while
> disassembling and testing the switch. The whole things seems
> weird and I'm still not really understanding that screw. But maybe
> i tightened it too much or something trying to see what it did,
> played with the throttle lever, and broke my switch? Really
> doubtful - i'm pretty careful. But it seemed to be doing nothing
> when i turned the screw. The shift lever moved the same, the red
> lever moved the same. Who knows.
>
> Nice to know that screw adjustment can completely disable your boat
> though. If a boat is not starting, that is probably the last
> thing anyone would check!
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Lee Shuster (lib1) wrote:
>
>> JD,
>>
>> The question you had on your JOHNSON/OMC single-lever remote control:
>>
>> I had an opportunity to grab a OMC factory manual from 1969-1970.
>> The screw (recessed and on top?) is used to adjust the interaction
>> of the FAST-IDLE/(START) lever with the N/S (neutral-safety) cutout.
>>
>> In other words, it is possible to (mis) adjust this so that one
>> could never start, even a warm boat with the main THROTTLE lever in
>> NEUTRAL, without first advancing or partially advancing the FAST-
>> IDLE/(START) lever.
>>
>> Does that make sense?
>>
>> BTW mine is adjusted, so that I can always do a hot start in
>> NEUTRAL without advancing the FAST-IDLE/(START) lever.
>>
>> If yours was mis-adjusted it might explain why you were
>> encountering a locked-out staring condition.
>>
>> Did you see the link I posted to the $200 new replacement switch?
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2009, at 11:05 PM, jd wrote:
>>
>>> hi, so for whoever is keeping track, got my boat out today for
>>> first time after weeks. temp prob was previous dilema, rewired
>>> about 75% as result. Ran around about about full speed for
>>> about 20 mins and temp stayed right at 160!! So yes, as I
>>> HOPED, knock on wood, but it appears the crazy high temp
>>> readings on 3 separate gauges and senders I have been getting for
>>> 3 summers now were ultimately the result of some funky wiring
>>> grounding thing. Wow what a relief!
>>>
>>> But of course, another prob popped up (although everything seems
>>> downhill minor from here on). Sometimes the key would crank and
>>> sometimes absolutely nothing. Tracked it down to the shifter.
>>> Pulled it apart, poked around, traced it to a prob with the
>>> Pollak switch that controls forward or reverse. It was
>>> sticking, and not sending juice to the white wire while in
>>> neutral. Actually went further and did some surgery on the
>>> switch - drilled out the rivets, carefully took it apart. All
>>> plastic, and a crucial plastic piece in there is broken in half.
>>> Have it in the vice tonight and am hoping I can glue it back
>>> together strong enough to hold. Not fun. Fortunately, Have
>>> an older shifter as back up just in case, but it doesn't have the
>>> ":won't start in F/R" wires.
>>>
>>> Anyway, on to my question - what exactly does the adjustment
>>> screw right above the red throttle lever do? it doesn't look
>>> broken to me, but seems to be doing nothing. Is it a friction
>>> adjustment for the lever?
>>>
>>> jeff d
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